[user104658]

Originally Posted by arista

Old Folks need Love

That's a new reality show right there. Someone call ITV2HD 1080p Dolby 5.1 surround sound.

[lostalex]

when gay parents start throwing their kids out onto the street for being straight, or groups of young gay boys go around beating the hell out of straight people, then maybe we can talk about heterophobia. til then, don't be ridiculous. seriously.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

when gay parents start throwing their kids out onto the street for being straight, or groups of young gay boys go around beating the hell out of straight people, then maybe we can talk about heterophobia. til then, don't be ridiculous. seriously.

Indeed.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm sure I remember he said he moved when young from Ireland to England :/

I may be wrong.

Northern Ireland

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Northern Ireland

Yes it was, even until last year they were having the prejudice purged from them via the courts, so Sams confessions of childhood influence comes as no surprise to me.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes it was, even until last year they were having the prejudice purged from them via the courts, so Sams confessions of childhood influence comes as no surprise to me.

Yes but the conversation I was having with him was about the Republic of Ireland and our recent referendum on Gay marriage

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes but the conversation I was having with him was about the Republic of Ireland and our recent referendum on Gay marriage

Yes very recent, there were dissenters too, so not everyone was in agreement therefore it's safe to say there are those who still have an out moded view.
Not everyone in the republic is enlightened, not everyone here (Britain) is either.
Whether or not we have legislation in place, that's just paper..it's nice just to be able to shine a light on some reasons for the slower transition I'd say.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Yes very recent, there were dissenters too, so not everyone was in agreement therefore it's safe to say there are those who still have an out moded view.

Not everyone in the republic is enlightened, not everyone here (Britain) is either.

Whether or not we have legislation in place, that's just paper..it's nice just to be able to shine a light on some reasons for the slower transition I'd say.

Obviously not everyone agrees, I never said that they did, what I said was that according to opinion Polls more older people agreed than disagreed with gay marriage (although not as high a percentage as younger people)

[Kizzy]

Polls shmolls...

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Polls shmolls...

That's not a word.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by lostalex

That's not a word.

Word Shmord.

[LemonJam]

It exists yeah, as it's prejudice, but I find the whole concept of it just insulting. I'll let you know why with personal insight of a real life homosexual:

Today I was affectionate in public with someone I'm seeing and someone politely shouted "GAYBOYS" out of their moving car (I'd also like to state at this point whenever I've been affectionate with a male in public more than 50% of the time someone will comment).

I had to share a hostel room with 5 people who were talking about why so many gay people have AIDS including such delightful comments as "All those gay guys were in the clinic with their boyfriends, made me feel uncomfortable." and "It's a big deal for poofs though the HIV innit."

When I came back from a guys house the next morning I was greeted with "Was he gentle with you?" as if I was less of a human being as the room laughed. They didn't know I was gay until after they said this so that was awkward but kinda funny to see them try cover themselves and failing miserably ("I couldn't tell because you're not high pitched and annoying as ****" was a personal favourite.)

When talking to a friends girlfriend she said "I could tell you were gay because you walk like you've taken it up the ass."

You know how long all of that has happened in? 3 days. In one of the gayest cities in the world.

Every day we experience prejudice for who we are. Heterosexuals will very rarely get any hatred or even microaggresions thrown towards them because they are the majority. They will always feel comfortable holding hands with their partner wherever they are, they can marry anywhere in the world, they don't face the death penalty for who they are in certain countries. I don't let my sexuality define me, but I always feel like if I say my piece about how I feel I'm just another whiney fag who feels sorry for myself. If I don't speak up then I'm letting other people win. It's oppressive and something people in the majority don't have to deal with generally speaking.

TL;DR, it exists but it's just insulting to actually take it seriously.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

It exists yeah, as it's prejudice, but I find the whole concept of it just insulting. I'll let you know why with personal insight of a real life homosexual:

Today I was affectionate in public with someone I'm seeing and someone politely shouted "GAYBOYS" out of their moving car (I'd also like to state at this point whenever I've been affectionate with a male in public more than 50% of the time someone will comment).

I had to share a hostel room with 5 people who were talking about why so many gay people have AIDS including such delightful comments as "All those gay guys were in the clinic with their boyfriends, made me feel uncomfortable." and "It's a big deal for poofs though the HIV innit."

When I came back from a guys house the next morning I was greeted with "Was he gentle with you?" as if I was less of a human being as the room laughed. They didn't know I was gay until after they said this so that was awkward but kinda funny to see them try cover themselves and failing miserably ("I couldn't tell because you're not high pitched and annoying as ****" was a personal favourite.)

When talking to a friends girlfriend she said "I could tell you were gay because you walk like you've taken it up the ass."

You know how long all of that has happened in? 3 days. In one of the gayest cities in the world.

Every day we experience prejudice for who we are. Heterosexuals will very rarely get any hatred or even microaggresions thrown towards them because they are the majority. They will always feel comfortable holding hands with their partner wherever they are, they can marry anywhere in the world, they don't face the death penalty for who they are in certain countries. I don't let my sexuality define me, but I always feel like if I say my piece about how I feel I'm just another whiney fag who feels sorry for myself. If I don't speak up then I'm letting other people win. It's oppressive and something people in the majority don't have to deal with generally speaking.

TL;DR, it exists but it's just insulting to actually take it seriously.

Sorry to hear this has happened to you people truly ****ing suck sometimes. I was told by a very flamboyant gay military boy, that he's actually faced more homophobic abuse in places that it's considered okay (the UK, basically) than in places like Arizona and Texas. I actually couldn't believe it, but he swore to me it was true. It's weird, isn't it?

I'm also glad to see that even though you're facing abuse, you can be open minded and say this type of 'phobia' towards straight people 'exists'. I totally agree with you. It's insulting to suggest it's anything near as bad as what us homo's will endure, but either way, no matter how small, it does exist.

Hope you're having a nice time other there anyway

[LemonJam]

Originally Posted by Chaos

Sorry to hear this has happened to you people truly ****ing suck sometimes. I was told by a very flamboyant gay military boy, that he's actually faced more homophobic abuse in places that it's considered okay (the UK, basically) than in places like Arizona and Texas. I actually couldn't believe it, but he swore to me it was true. It's weird, isn't it?

I'm also glad to see that even though you're facing abuse, you can be open minded and say this type of 'phobia' towards straight people 'exists'. I totally agree with you. It's insulting to suggest it's anything near as bad as what us homo's will endure, but either way, no matter how small, it does exist.

Hope you're having a nice time other there anyway

I mean my attitude towards homophobia is different now than how it used to be. Me a year ago would've got pretty sad about it but now I just think "Why is their opinion important?" and move on. It hasn't really affected me, just giving examples

I'm having the time of my life here by the way thank you

[Shaun]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

Today I was affectionate in public with someone I'm seeing and someone politely shouted "GAYBOYS" out of their moving car

sorry </3

[LemonJam]

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

It exists yeah, as it's prejudice, but I find the whole concept of it just insulting. I'll let you know why with personal insight of a real life homosexual:

Today I was affectionate in public with someone I'm seeing and someone politely shouted "GAYBOYS" out of their moving car (I'd also like to state at this point whenever I've been affectionate with a male in public more than 50% of the time someone will comment).

I had to share a hostel room with 5 people who were talking about why so many gay people have AIDS including such delightful comments as "All those gay guys were in the clinic with their boyfriends, made me feel uncomfortable." and "It's a big deal for poofs though the HIV innit."

When I came back from a guys house the next morning I was greeted with "Was he gentle with you?" as if I was less of a human being as the room laughed. They didn't know I was gay until after they said this so that was awkward but kinda funny to see them try cover themselves and failing miserably ("I couldn't tell because you're not high pitched and annoying as ****" was a personal favourite.)

When talking to a friends girlfriend she said "I could tell you were gay because you walk like you've taken it up the ass."

You know how long all of that has happened in? 3 days. In one of the gayest cities in the world.

Every day we experience prejudice for who we are. Heterosexuals will very rarely get any hatred or even microaggresions thrown towards them because they are the majority. They will always feel comfortable holding hands with their partner wherever they are, they can marry anywhere in the world, they don't face the death penalty for who they are in certain countries. I don't let my sexuality define me, but I always feel like if I say my piece about how I feel I'm just another whiney fag who feels sorry for myself. If I don't speak up then I'm letting other people win. It's oppressive and something people in the majority don't have to deal with generally speaking.

TL;DR, it exists but it's just insulting to actually take it seriously.

Thanks for sharing though LJ I think you perfectly illustrated the point with that post. As a straight woman i can tell you the amount of times I've experienced hate for being heterosexual in my 37 years on this planet is Zero

[Kizzy]

It is shocking to think though that mockery and jibes are the experience, not long ago gay men would have been subjected to imprisonment and/or a severe beating LJ
Bizarrely you have documented progression, but also the fact that ignorance is not generationally exclusive .

[JoshBB]

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/01/05...-uk-broadcast/

Another example of homophobia with no equivalent for straight people..

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2016/01/05...-uk-broadcast/

Another example of homophobia with no equivalent for straight people..

That's not homophobia...That's section 28.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LemonJam

It exists yeah, as it's prejudice, but I find the whole concept of it just insulting. I'll let you know why with personal insight of a real life homosexual:

Today I was affectionate in public with someone I'm seeing and someone politely shouted "GAYBOYS" out of their moving car (I'd also like to state at this point whenever I've been affectionate with a male in public more than 50% of the time someone will comment).

I had to share a hostel room with 5 people who were talking about why so many gay people have AIDS including such delightful comments as "All those gay guys were in the clinic with their boyfriends, made me feel uncomfortable." and "It's a big deal for poofs though the HIV innit."

When I came back from a guys house the next morning I was greeted with "Was he gentle with you?" as if I was less of a human being as the room laughed. They didn't know I was gay until after they said this so that was awkward but kinda funny to see them try cover themselves and failing miserably ("I couldn't tell because you're not high pitched and annoying as ****" was a personal favourite.)

When talking to a friends girlfriend she said "I could tell you were gay because you walk like you've taken it up the ass."

You know how long all of that has happened in? 3 days. In one of the gayest cities in the world.

Every day we experience prejudice for who we are. Heterosexuals will very rarely get any hatred or even microaggresions thrown towards them because they are the majority. They will always feel comfortable holding hands with their partner wherever they are, they can marry anywhere in the world, they don't face the death penalty for who they are in certain countries. I don't let my sexuality define me, but I always feel like if I say my piece about how I feel I'm just another whiney fag who feels sorry for myself. If I don't speak up then I'm letting other people win. It's oppressive and something people in the majority don't have to deal with generally speaking.

TL;DR, it exists but it's just insulting to actually take it seriously.

I think this is the fairest and most accurate summing up of it. It's awful (and infuriating) that gay people have to go through these things. One of my best friends is gay (that sounds like a total soundbite, but genuinely one of my very best friends from childhood came out about 10 years ago) and I think I've mentioned on here before, I find it heartbreaking to see what him and his boyfriend go through, even in the subtle day to day things... like being hesitant to be affectionate in public, and really cringing before introducing his boyfriend as his partner at a wedding we were at. Nobody was weird about it at all or even blinked, but it was that moment just before he said it when I could tell that he was sort of bracing himself for a bad response, or even just a shocked / strange response. I can't even imagine it, really, such tension in everyday things.

But, as you say, that doesn't mean heterophobia as a concept doesn't exist and I agree with the way you've stated it; "it exists but it's just insulting to actually take it seriously". It's something that happens, but to act like it really negatively affects anyone's life in any major way is ridiculous.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Straight people are regularly turned away from bars in the Village in Manchester on the basis of their sexuality. I guess that could be deemed as discrimination as no bar would be able to be "straights" only in the rest of Manchester (quite rightly so).

Interesting that this seems to have been completely overlooked. Its not a rare thing either, up in Newcastle it happens quite regularly too. Not that this means heterophobia exists as such, but there is definitely discimination going on.

Also wtf at what this thread has turned into? Young dont want to work, older people would never have not worked...seriously?! The jobs market is massively different these days to what it was even 10 years ago. 10 years back I quit my job and quite literally walked into another within 5 minutes. Now hundreds of people apply for every damn job. I am sick to death of seeing about how the youth of today are lazy bastards when its just not true. yeah SOME are, same as SOME back when you 60 year olds were young were also lazy bastards. And don't say this didn't happen either, this is what 'pension credit' is for...yeah, those older people who didn't ****ing work when they were younger. I know this because...shock horror I know a 65 year old who never worked a day in his life. OMGZ...yeah,. these people have always been around. What a revelation. Some really need to stop lapping up the bollocks the sun and the star give out tbh.

[Kizzy]

well said Vicky!

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Interesting that this seems to have been completely overlooked. Its not a rare thing either, up in Newcastle it happens quite regularly too. Not that this means heterophobia exists as such, but there is definitely discimination going on.

Also wtf at what this thread has turned into? Young dont want to work, older people would never have not worked...seriously?! The jobs market is massively different these days to what it was even 10 years ago. 10 years back I quit my job and quite literally walked into another within 5 minutes. Now hundreds of people apply for every damn job. I am sick to death of seeing about how the youth of today are lazy bastards when its just not true. yeah SOME are, same as SOME back when you 60 year olds were young were also lazy bastards. And don't say this didn't happen either, this is what 'pension credit' is for...yeah, those older people who didn't ****ing work when they were younger. I know this because...shock horror I know a 65 year old who never worked a day in his life. OMGZ...yeah,. these people have always been around. What a revelation. Some really need to stop lapping up the bollocks the sun and the star give out tbh.

Well said Vicky.
Nothing new about SOME people not wanting to work, or never having worked.
We have estates of third generation families that have never wanted to work, apart from the fiddle that is. So the older generation can't get off Scott free.
We have also had mass unemployment and no jobs over the generations as well.
Nothing really changes that much...apart from the ridiculously high house prices.
How on earth the younger ones are expected to buy a house, or even afford the high rent prices is just beyond me.

[Ninastar]

Youtube video

I'm watching this video and literally sobbing. I was actually completely shocked by the end statistics... They did the same test in New York (one of the most accepting states in the US) and Texas, which is known for being extremely conservative/homophobic... However, twice as many people in Texas stuck up for the gay couple, and only about 13 people out of 100 stuck up for the gay couple in New York.

It kinda proves that the media likes to make on how awful these conservative countries are. Like I mentioned earlier, (and this still surprises me) my gay friend in the military experienced more abuse here in the UK and in California than he ever did in Arizona and Texas.

I'm happy with how much the world is progressing. You hear bad things happening an awful lot too, but considering that 5/6 years ago there was only openly one gay kid in my whole school (my best friend) and now it's so widely accepted, it truly gives me hope.