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Old 29-01-2016, 10:09 AM #1
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Jeremy has chased Steph from the minute they got into the house. He know's she has a boyfriend, but all hm's are basically blaming her for the relationship.
I believe there has only been Scotty T who has spoken to him about it, others have may have said cool it down but he has ignored the advice too.
IMO Steph has fallen heads over heels because of the attention Jeremy has thrown at her and she has never felt like this and she doesn't know how to control it.
Don't get me wrong not a fan of both of them, not justifying it and both gone the wrong way about it but cant both be blamed instead of just Steph

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I think Steph definitely should take more blame as she was the one in the relationship but I agree that he should take a portion too. There is massive double standards though, you're right, when Hazel and Daley had a thing, all the hate was directed at Hazel eventhough it was Daley who had a g/f
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Jeremy has chased Steph from the minute they got into the house. He know's she has a boyfriend, but all hm's are basically blaming her for the relationship.
I believe there has only been Scotty T who has spoken to him about it, others have may have said cool it down but he has ignored the advice too.
IMO Steph has fallen heads over heels because of the attention Jeremy has thrown at her and she has never felt like this and she doesn't know how to control it.
Don't get me wrong not a fan of both of them, not justifying it and both gone the wrong way about it but cant both be blamed instead of just Steph

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To be fair jezza has been told time and time again, i remember david was constantly at him and even told him he was making the biggest mistake of his life....he didn't listen because it wouldn't have fitted in with his boring showmance plans.

so both to blame, and both to blame for ruining bb by sucking the life out of everyone by going on the way they do.
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Yep I agree when any kind of cheating is going on and this isn't full on proper cheating cos they'pve not r kissed - no proof of that and not sh * gg * d, but whenever there is any kind of cheating going on the girl is normally blamed before the guy.

It's just part of the way this system works.Men always have a slight advantage,better pay on average,more in top jobs even though equal pay legislation went in to law just over 40 yr ago.

And not enough people stand up against it.

So because most put up with it the bias generally in many things against women conts .......................
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Jeremy has chased Steph from the minute they got into the house. He know's she has a boyfriend, but all hm's are basically blaming her for the relationship.
I believe there has only been Scotty T who has spoken to him about it, others have may have said cool it down but he has ignored the advice too.
IMO Steph has fallen heads over heels because of the attention Jeremy has thrown at her and she has never felt like this and she doesn't know how to control it.
Don't get me wrong not a fan of both of them, not justifying it and both gone the wrong way about it but cant both be blamed instead of just Steph

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Welcome to the site

It's different rules for men then women....in this instance her position comes with more boundaries then his does cause he's singe ....but if it was the other stuff round it would still be the femsle who would be painted the worst one.
It's not fair but it's our culture, one that's strengthened by the press....Princess Diana was chased to the grave for leaving Charles, yet it was he who cheated on her....it's not fair and women have to choose if they wanna take the criticism or not before they go down that path...it's not fair that men aren't expected to cry but it's often a fact....we are a long way from these things changing
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The who Steph debate, in my opinion, would only be relevant if she was engaged or married

she is not, young people flit about until they find a mate for life (hopefully)


the faux moral indignation is laughable
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The who Steph debate, in my opinion, would only be relevant if she was engaged or married

she is not, young people flit about until they find a mate for life (hopefully)


the faux moral indignation is laughable
She was with him for a year. What if you're someone who doesn't want to get married, does that mean you can never be cheated on or cheat on someone, sorry LT but that logic is ridiculous
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She was with him for a year. What if you're someone who doesn't want to get married, does that mean you can never be cheated on or cheat on someone, sorry LT but that logic is ridiculous
we have no idea what that relationship was like, but wait yes we do, he friend stated it was abusive and unhappy - she may have been lying but I doubt that

what we have seen so far of him has not been exactly pleasant - doing PA's at nightclubs - why because he is "going out" with a very minor celeb?

who the feck would do that?


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we have no idea what that relationship was like, but wait yes we do, he friend stated it was abusive and unhappy - she may have been lying but I doubt that

what we have seen so far of him has not been exactly pleasant - doing PA's at nightclubs - why because he is "going out" with a very minor celeb?

who the feck would do that?


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I always have sympathy for the injured party. People who try to excuse the cheater because of whatever reasons(he doesn't understand me, he didn't open doors for me waa waa waa) disgust me. If he wasn't a good b/f then she shouldn't have stayed with him, end of
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One is single and free to do what they like, the other is not. Pretty sure Steph is largely in the wrong.

Sure Jeremy should have more sense but he's being pretty much led on. If he left her alone, she'd only come after him
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I always have sympathy for the injured party. People who try to excuse the cheater because of whatever reasons(he doesn't understand me, he didn't open doors for me waa waa waa) disgust me. If he wasn't a good b/f then she shouldn't have stayed with him, end of
he knew the minute she went in that he was toast


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On this case, Stephanie is the one who is (or was?) in a relationship, while Jeremy is single. So naturally she deserves more blame.

If Jeremy was the one in a relationship, while Steph was single, then he would deserve more blame than Stephanie.

If they both were in a relationship, they would both deserve equal blame. It´s quite simple in principle.

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The who Steph debate, in my opinion, would only be relevant if she was engaged or married

she is not, young people flit about until they find a mate for life (hopefully)


the faux moral indignation is laughable
I don't think age or marital status has anything to do with it tbh. If anything, younger people are likely to feel more hurt in situations like that because they have less life experience. I got cheated on when I was 21 and it was the worst feeling I've ever had, I think I'd cope a lot better if it happened now because I have more perspective.

Noone really knows the ins and outs of Steph/Sam's relationship, except that they are in one. If things between them weren't good then they could have broken up but they decided to stay together. Same goes for if she wants to enjoy her youth and flit about. But they've decided to be in a committed relationship and she's cheating on him on national television so I think she deserves blame for the situation. What Jeremy's doing isn't 'right', but he doesn't have any responsibility towards Sam, whereas Steph does. Which is why he deserves less blame. And if she's old enough to commit herself to someone (she was even talking about how she wanted to marry him), then she's old enough to accept responsibility for cheating on that person. The whole "I'm only 22, I'm just a child" rubbish doesn't wash.
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Steph has a bf.Jeremy is free and single he can do as he likes.Steph is the cheater.However i do think the whole thing is bollocks for story line and mag deals.If it actually is real then Jeremy is a mug tbh.That girl we are seeing does'nt know what she wants and would either go between Jeremy and Sam or just shag the first bloke who is willing that she fancies.
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They are both to blame but she has to take more responsibility because she is the one with a partner!
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Jeremy has chased Steph from the minute they got into the house. He know's she has a boyfriend, but all hm's are basically blaming her for the relationship.
I believe there has only been Scotty T who has spoken to him about it, others have may have said cool it down but he has ignored the advice too.
IMO Steph has fallen heads over heels because of the attention Jeremy has thrown at her and she has never felt like this and she doesn't know how to control it.
Don't get me wrong not a fan of both of them, not justifying it and both gone the wrong way about it but cant both be blamed instead of just Steph

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I am the first to jump to the defence of the girl when its warranted like in the Daley and Hazel situation she was single he wasn't but its the person IN the relationship who is in the wrong here. Its a two way street with those two. Steph began to get much closer to Jeremy first while Jeremy TRIED to understand the boyfriend situation. Both are wrong but in my opinion in this case Steph is MORE WRONG
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I don't agree with the posts saying the one with the partner should shoulder more blame at all. Both parties are doing something wrong and both should be held accountable equally.

Being single yourself isn't a decent excuse for pursuing something with somebody who isn't.

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It's always the female's fault regardless of whether they are the cheating wife or girlfriend ala Stephanie or the mistress ala Kristina. Heck even the wronged wife gets blame for not satisfying her man - look at the abuse Posh Spice got over the Rebecca Loos scandal.
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