[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I really don't want to sound patronizing here Jack, I promise, but I seriously think that until you actually have kids yourself you won't fully understand why a teacher shouldn't be allowed to go into school and pick up their students. When I was your age I would probably have thought the same way as you do and again that isn't meant to come across in a condescending way at all, I just don't think you fully see the problems with this sort of thing until you're properly out of that age bracket.

I have a 16 year old daughter, she's doing exams etc at the moment, I'm worried about boys her own age, to actually have to send her to school and worry about a full grown adult with power over her also would just be horrific. I'd probably end up sending her to a school with no male teachers if it were perfectly fine for full grown adults in a position of power to be able to pursue school kids in a sexual way

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Jack_

I agree with TS to an extent, he was 16...he consented...he can do as he pleases. Nothing to see here

I've always found this 'position of trust' stuff to be BS, nah sorry once someone's reached the age of consent they can do what they like, with who they like, when they like

Have you ever heard of safeguarding?, yes it might be "just legal" for her to enter into a relationship with a 16 year old if she wasn't his teacher, her job changes everything

[bots]

You don't have doctors having relationships with patients .... no matter what their age. Its a trust thing, its a professional ethics things ... and it applies equally to teachers

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

You don't have doctors having relationships with patients .... no matter what their age. Its a trust thing, its a professional ethics things ... and it applies equally to teachers

Bang On Right

[Mystic Mock]

The only thing that I'll say is couldn't they just sack her from her job instead of sending her to jail?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I agree but this is what makes me wonder about the age of consent, full stop. If kids at 16 aren't capable of protecting themselves in some situations then, surely, the same applies in every situation be it teachers or not - and therefore, I'm dubious about it being legal for teens to consent with full adults at all.

Then again, I have to wonder... Will you feel any differently when your daughter is 18 compared to 16? I doubt it's any different for a parent. My wife's younger sister is 20 and she STILL seems very naive to be honest - and this is a girl who was drinking / smoking / having sex at 14 and ran away to live with us for 4 months... Not someone who was wrapped in cotton wool.

Not sure what my point is there really. Just that 18 year olds can still find themselves in these situations with people who have authority of some sort or other over them. So I guess the important part is making sure young people are aware and prepared for those sorts of situations in general?

Yeah, absolutely agree with you and I liked your idea on the last page there of the different levels on consent

It's obviously impossible to protect your kids from everything but my point is that you should atleast feel that they're safe in school from the ones who are supposed to be guiding them

Originally Posted by parmnion

we used to have sex with the teachers all the time when i was at school.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

She could give him a higher grade in tests just for his tools down below.

I know this is a jokey post but it's right as well and what if the teacher and student had a falling out or the student didn't want to be involved with the teacher anymore? The teacher is in charge of that student in class, they could make their life hell as well

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Jack_

What's the issue? They are both of age and both consenting. If this woman wasn't a teacher no one - other than those who strangely have issues with age gaps - would care. So why is it any different just because she's a teacher? I actually think it's both incredibly patronising and contradictory that on the one hand there's this assumption that age 16 people are suddenly capable of giving consent and being in control of their own body, but on the other hand if it's their teacher they're being used and abused perhaps someone who is of age is perfectly capable of understanding what their relationship with their teacher is but is still happy enough to consent?

I have never and will never understand this bizarre kink in the law

I've never had kids of my own either but I'm with Niamh 100%. Teachers are in a position of trust in any case and it's not as if being 16 makes you magically develop adult maturity. I wouldn't want my teenage kid being taken advantage of by someone who's literally paid to know better.

[the truth]

she will get a far more lenient sentence than any man doing the same crime, women always get more lenient sentences in sexist an hating uk