[letmein]

Everyone is jealous of Andy's engagement. Didn't you know that? He told us right after it happened.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by parmnion

can you prove they were trying to make a mockery of his engagement?


let me answer for you.....NO.
PITY HE CAN'T SAY OUTSIDE THE DIARY ROOM WHAT HE SAYS IN IT EH|!!

I've never been down a mine shaft but I know it's cold and dark .....sometimes the proof is just what's obvious, you don't need affirmation. They're two bitchy little queens who love winding people up and hate Andy....what other reason would it have been, the tinkle tinkle of wedding plans just hours after Hughies mother told him to stay away ? Of course it was to upset Andy and to make a mockery of what he had described as the happiest day of his life.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by parmnion

you would think andy would be championing hughie for the amount of persecution he will have faced in life what with being gay and a traveller..he will have had it from all sides...homophobes for being gay..just about everyone for being a traveller...and from the travellers themselves for being gay...

poor poor andy can't put his jealousy and hate for anyone stealing his thunder to one side for one second.

Even his bf thinks hughie is ok.

I love him, him and Ryan are so funny together I like Andy, but he overreacted big time. No way the lads wanted to upset him, they were just having a laugh.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I've never been down a mine shaft but I know it's cold and dark .....sometimes the proof is just what's obvious, you don't need affirmation. They're two bitchy little queens who love winding people up and hate Andy....what other reason would it have been, the tinkle tinkle of wedding plans just hours after Hughies mother told him to stay away ? Of course it was to upset Andy and to make a mockery of what he had described as the happiest day of his life.

they don't really wind people up that much though, most of their jokes etc are directed at each other or themselves..

Andy just can't handle it.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by parmnion

they don't really wind people up that much though, most of their jokes etc are directed at each other or themselves..

Andy just can't handle it.

just imagine how boring that place would be without the lads. they make me laugh

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

just imagine how boring that place would be without the lads. they make me laugh

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I like Andy, but he overreacted. Hughie and Ryan were only messing around. I don't think they did it to upset Andy.

It was BLATANTLY a snide attempt to have a dig at Andy......absolutely no doubt about it as far as i'm concerned.

Even though both Ryan and Hughie are thick as **** even they wouldn't have come up with something like that as a joke the very next day after Andy had got engaged without realising exactly what they were doing.

Ryan's nastiness was obvious right from the start but Hughie wasn't far behind him. Hughie's mask is slipping fast and i think he's just just getting worse by the day.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by JTM45

It was BLATANTLY a snide attempt to have a dig at Andy......absolutely no doubt about it as far as i'm concerned.

Even though both Ryan and Hughie are thick as **** even they wouldn't have come up with something like that as a joke the very next day after Andy had got engaged without realising exactly what they were doing.

Ryan's nastiness was obvious right from the start but Hughie wasn't far behind him. Hughie's mask is slipping fast and i think he's just just getting worse by the day.

I don't think so. It was just a joke and not aimed at Andy.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I don't think so. It was just a joke and not aimed at Andy.

Oh please Vanessa!!!!

It couldn't have been any more obvious.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by JTM45

Oh please Vanessa!!!!

It couldn't have been any more obvious.

We will have to agree to disagree on this.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

just imagine how boring that place would be without the lads. they make me laugh

It would be very boring .....they irritate me but no way do I want them to go...and they ARE very funny when they play each other up...they're like two naughty toddlers or two old men, I can never quite decide
This is a game where enemies actually compliment each other....one needs the other to stay in the show. Natalie and Andy bring out the side of Hughie that is the side that's keeping him in....it's not bad news for him at all.

[hot2go]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I don't think so. It was just a joke and not aimed at Andy.

I also have to agree to disagree on that one....and I'm more confinement of Ryans motives than I even am of Hughies.

[jet]

Originally Posted by parmnion

you would think andy would be championing hughie for the amount of persecution he will have faced in life what with being gay and a traveller..he will have had it from all sides...homophobes for being gay..just about everyone for being a traveller...and from the travellers themselves for being gay...

poor poor andy can't put his jealousy and hate for anyone stealing his thunder to one side for one second.

Even his bf thinks hughie is ok.

I can't label all travellers as I've never come across any personally, but the crowd who use a site about a mile from my brothers place in Limerick, Ireland are barred from every hotel and bar for causing rows, they steal and leave their litter everywhere and they'd shag anything, even dumb animals.

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by Shaun

"Trying to do something about it" - what, like talk about it on Big Brother? Lmao he doesn't need to write, he's having all of his martyrdom done for him by his fans.

so because some see his point of view and attempt to give others the platform to stand on (unbiased information) to alter their perspective (despite knowing it's a largely futile exercise), that makes them martyr-creators? gimme a ****ing break

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

they are stoning gays and throwing them off buildings in Blackpool and feeding them to dragons in Bognor

wont someone think of the gays?

Originally Posted by parmnion

can you prove they were trying to make a mockery of his engagement?


let me answer for you.....NO.
PITY HE CAN'T SAY OUTSIDE THE DIARY ROOM WHAT HE SAYS IN IT EH|!!

can you prove they weren't?
of course not; as adults, all we can do is observe, weigh it against what we've already seen, balance it by adding our personal insight into human nature as garnered over our lifetimes, and come to some conclusion - a conclusion to stand by until the flux of information alters it.

Originally Posted by JTM45

Oh please Vanessa!!!!

It couldn't have been any more obvious.

yup

[hot2go]

I don't understand how this year in the house whenever a housemate upsets someone else it's the person who's been upset that gets the blame...how does their snidy little piss take make them not in any way to blame....how is it Andys fault because he didn't like it ? If they didn't like Andys reaction then they should have thought about that before they tried to patronise and mock him.. If you wanna go around offending people then you don't get to choose the other persons reaction....the mere fact that Ryan and Hughie wanted to upset someone on purpose means that they are always gonna be more in the wrong no matter how big the explosion they cause.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by JTM45

It was BLATANTLY a snide attempt to have a dig at Andy......absolutely no doubt about it as far as i'm concerned.

Even though both Ryan and Hughie are thick as **** even they wouldn't have come up with something like that as a joke the very next day after Andy had got engaged without realising exactly what they were doing.

Ryan's nastiness was obvious right from the start but Hughie wasn't far behind him. Hughie's mask is slipping fast and i think he's just just getting worse by the day.

I totally agree....especially the made up ring and the comment about getting one when they are outside...then Hughies snide comment that it's 'not about the ring'....
Two spiteful bitches...no wonder Andy got pissed off.

[Jan S]

Originally Posted by hot2go

I don't understand how this year in the house whenever a housemate upsets someone else it's the person who's been upset that gets the blame...how does their snidy little piss take make them not in any way to blame....how is it Andys fault because he didn't like it ? If they didn't like Andys reaction then they should have thought about that before they tried to patronise and mock him.. If you wanna go around offending people then you don't get to choose the other persons reaction....the mere fact that Ryan and Hughie wanted to upset someone on purpose means that they are always gonna be more in the wrong no matter how big the explosion they cause.

this^^

Originally Posted by rusticgal

I totally agree....especially the made up ring and the comment about getting one when they are outside...then Hughies snide comment that it's 'not about the ring'....
Two spiteful bitches...no wonder Andy got pissed off.

and this!