[Vanessa]

Well no doubt he can be a twat sometimes. But i have a soft spot for him

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Robodog

I must be one of the few people left in the UK who has never seen TOWIE but yeah i can imagine. His whole rig (especially with Marnie) seems rehearsed, churned out and slightly dead behind the eyes. Until his ego is challenged and then he becomes nasty.

I agree with some posters though that him, Bear and Heavy are carrying the show right now. As terrible as they are, it's better TV to keep them in there. Get them out and we'll just be watching polite chit chat between people we half like.

I've never watched any of those type of shows either,the trailers are enough to put me off.

[Lstan]

Originally Posted by Rob!

They're all just as bad as each IMO. Each one has a separate and gigantic sense of entitlement that none of them are even remotely entitled to.

Talk about hitting the nail on the head. They are the axis of annoyance lol

[Beso]

Lewis is a twat, so yes far far worse.

[Vanessa]

Are you kidding me? Bear is the worse, but brilliant housemate.

[Ammi]

..I think that Bear has to go so that we can see what Lewis is all about..atm it's all focus on Bear and yeah, I do think that some of Lewis' grim behaviour is being overlooked because of that...

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Absolutely, I've said all along that he's the ring leader of it all, he's vile.

Pretty much this.

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by Robodog

I'm starting to think so.

Heavy D is like a slightly nervous child trying to play with the big boys and getting it all wrong. Bear is clearly quite angry, paranoid and a real sheet stirrer, but at least he is 'what you see is what you get' (even though what you see and get is a loud, annoying wally)

Lewis however seems much more sly, insincere and tbh a right bitch. The times he has laid into Heavy have been personal, spiteful and below the belt:

"Go back to being the bloke off storage hunters that nobody likes". Too far i think. I could see the genuine upset behind Heavy's eyes after that one.

Also Lewis's comments about women saying how he'd 'pull the girls at work that everyone liked, even if he didn't like them' just so he could say on monday that he'd been with them etc. What kind of person does that??

I think that's what he's doing with Marnie. 'Getting with her' to prove a point. All ego. All the BS and right lines to 'win her over', like he's said them all a 1000 times before. No care about other's feelings, including Marnie.

Lewis hasn't got the loud bluster of Bear or Heavy which means that their antics drown him out. But for my money, Lewis is the more sneaky, competitive and sly type of bitch. I also think he has a far colder heart than Heavy or Bear when it comes down to it. If they truly upset someone, i think they would be sorry. I don't think Lewis would actually care IMO.
Anyone else agree?

Absolutely agree, used to think it was heavy that was the ring leader but, the more watch Lewis, it's definitely him, he sly one.

[bots]

Lewis is like the public school boy getting the ruffians to carry out his evil plan. He relies on having a few extra brain cells compared to the rest of his gang. Without his gang, he will be hamstrung though. Get rid of Bear and Heavy D, and Lewis is a spent force.

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by BigBrotherfan4ever

Absolutely agree, used to think it was heavy that was the ring leader but, the more watch Lewis, it's definitely him, he sly one.

Lol Heavy could'nt lead a dog round the park nevermind be some mastermind of mischief

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Robodog

I'm starting to think so.

Heavy D is like a slightly nervous child trying to play with the big boys and getting it all wrong. Bear is clearly quite angry, paranoid and a real sheet stirrer, but at least he is 'what you see is what you get' (even though what you see and get is a loud, annoying wally)

Lewis however seems much more sly, insincere and tbh a right bitch. The times he has laid into Heavy have been personal, spiteful and below the belt:

"Go back to being the bloke off storage hunters that nobody likes". Too far i think. I could see the genuine upset behind Heavy's eyes after that one.

Also Lewis's comments about women saying how he'd 'pull the girls at work that everyone liked, even if he didn't like them' just so he could say on monday that he'd been with them etc. What kind of person does that??

I think that's what he's doing with Marnie. 'Getting with her' to prove a point. All ego. All the BS and right lines to 'win her over', like he's said them all a 1000 times before. No care about other's feelings, including Marnie.

Lewis hasn't got the loud bluster of Bear or Heavy which means that their antics drown him out. But for my money, Lewis is the more sneaky, competitive and sly type of bitch. I also think he has a far colder heart than Heavy or Bear when it comes down to it. If they truly upset someone, i think they would be sorry. I don't think Lewis would actually care IMO.

Anyone else agree?

Great post and spot on! Absolutely agree!

Lewis quietly and craftily instigates a lot of what happens. He sees people's weaknesses and knows how they will react, and manipulates this for his own purposes. He lights the flame then sits back and watches when others explode. He is controlling so many of them like puppets but they don't even realise it.

I don't think he is a very pleasant person at all. I feel he is seriously lacking in emotion and a conscience, but knows how to play Mr Charming to disarm others. Not someone to be trusted at all.

[Vanessa]

He's such a charming bastard

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Lewis is worse, but they are an awful bunch. When a show becomes a chore to watch, there is something wrong imo, and those 3 are the main reason for it.

I would add Chloe and Marnie to this list- the 'squad' - they are all so shallow and predictable in their behaviour.

You've hit the nail on the head when you say this series has become a chore to watch- it's more like the Jeremy Kyle Show because of these characters.

I think Heavy D is redeemable but I don't believe the others will ever be any different, as they are too used to performing in this way due to the shows they have come from, and their idea as to what is entertaining and will gain them publicity.

I am just living in hope that this series of CBB is redeemable too.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He's such a charming bastard

But not in a good way, as he is so false and insincere- his charm is used to trick and manipulate others- it is not genuine. I'd call it devious and untrustworthy.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Garfie

But not in a good way, as he is so false and insincere- his charm is used to trick and manipulate others- it is not genuine. I'd call it devious and untrustworthy.

Works for me. I think he's amazing

[camertone]

lewis is the ringleader and alpha male wannabe..

[sungrass]

Lewis and its not too far to say it is a sociopath - look that up. Underneath the charming man exterior is a person that doesnt feel empathy for others and manipulates them for his own gain. I ve watched him for years on TOWIE he is a vile individual. Sociopaths are very very very clever though. Heavy D cant keep up - but I like him. I like Bear for entertainment purposes I can stand Lewis as he is interesting. Not a very good bunch of HMs tbf

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Great post and spot on! Absolutely agree!

Lewis quietly and craftily instigates a lot of what happens. He sees people's weaknesses and knows how they will react, and manipulates this for his own purposes. He lights the flame then sits back and watches when others explode. He is controlling so many of them like puppets but they don't even realise it.

I don't think he is a very pleasant person at all. I feel he is seriously lacking in emotion and a conscience, but knows how to play Mr Charming to disarm others. Not someone to be trusted at all.

yes a sociopath explained perfectly, he loved himself on TOWIE treated people like dirt.