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Vicky. · 25-01-2017, 09:39 AM

If we ever find a contraceptive that is 100% effective, I may slightly change my views on this, but whilst the best is only 98% effective (meaning 2 people of every hundred will still get pregnant even when using it) then no. And I will never support taking away a womans right to chose completely. I do however, support lowering the limit for 'choice' abourtions...but I believe this isn't even necessary as most are carried out in the first few weeks, tends to be only for medical reasons when people have them later

StephenPullen · 25-01-2017, 09:39 AM

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Instead force taxpayers to pay out a ****load more cash for unwanted babies? Sense..

Hmm, so let's kill babies because we can't afford them. Sounds very humane. Let's kill unwanted babies because we don't want them - same argument was used to justify killing the Jews in 1940s Europe.

There is a thing called adoption, it actually allows you to give children to parents that actually want them without killing them before they are born. Honestly, and you are the same people that call Donald Trump immoral.

StephenPullen · 25-01-2017, 09:41 AM

You know, the only people you fail listen to are the innocent unborn children. Where is their voice in all this? Silence.

Niamh. · 25-01-2017, 09:42 AM

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You know, the only people you fail listen to are the innocent unborn children. Where is their voice in all this? Silence.

Do you think the morning after Pill is ok then or not?

y.winter · 25-01-2017, 09:45 AM

Out goes the Holocaust card
SD is fun

Niamh. · 25-01-2017, 09:47 AM

Again though a load of men again in here trying to tell women what they can and can't do with their own bodies.

Jack_ · 25-01-2017, 09:49 AM

I saw a great comment about 'pro life' on a Facebook article about this earlier. It said, and I quote:

'Let's call it what it is - anti choice. If it was about promoting life, he would be ensuring all children have access to healthcare, education and a safe gun free environment.'

Burn!

Ithinkiloveyoutoo · 25-01-2017, 09:50 AM

According to DM Strump wants to start building the Mexican wall today. What about the Russian migrants? I can't wait for everything to backfire on his stupid ass

StephenPullen · 25-01-2017, 09:50 AM

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Do you think the morning after Pill is ok then or not?

I think it's the responsibility of the parents to make the right decisions surrounding their sexual antics and the consequences of them. There are many debates surrounding whether or not a child is alive at conception or not - and I thought the morning after pill was meant to be taken without the knowledge of a pregnancy, just like a precaution. I view the morning after pill as being the same as a prophylactic/ condo,, it prevents pregnancy from taking place because there is evidence that suggests it takes around 5 days for a pregnancy to begin or not begin.

StephenPullen · 25-01-2017, 09:51 AM

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According to DM Strump wants to start building the Mexican wall today. What about the Russian migrants? I can't wait for everything to backfire on his stupid ass

I'm sure President Trump values your very thoughtful and insightful opinion. Not.

Brillopad · 25-01-2017, 09:52 AM

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You know, the only people you fail listen to are the innocent unborn children. Where is their voice in all this? Silence.

Are you personally, and those who share your opinions, going to look after all these children you want to force to be born - put your money where your mouth is kind of thinking, or once they are born will you excuse yourself of any responsibility in their plight with no families to care for them.

Niamh. · 25-01-2017, 09:53 AM

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I think it's the responsibility of the parents to make the right decisions surrounding their sexual antics and the consequences of them. There are many debates surrounding whether or not a child is alive at conception or not - and I thought the morning after pill was meant to be taken without the knowledge of a pregnancy, just like a precaution. I view the morning after pill as being the same as a prophylactic/ condo,, it prevents pregnancy from taking place because there is evidence that suggests it takes around 5 days for a pregnancy to begin or not begin.

Thought as much. So what if a women is raped and she's too distraught by the ordeal to think straight, can she have an abortion if she finds out she's pregnant say 3 weeks in?

Vicky. · 25-01-2017, 10:15 AM

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Hmm, so let's kill babies because we can't afford them. Sounds very humane. Let's kill unwanted babies because we don't want them - same argument was used to justify killing the Jews in 1940s Europe.

There is a thing called adoption, it actually allows you to give children to parents that actually want them without killing them before they are born. Honestly, and you are the same people that call Donald Trump immoral.

They aren't babies at that stage...and adoption agencies are bursting at the seams.

Anyway, my point was if its taxpayers money thats the problem, it will cost 10000000x more to force people to have babies than to fund abortion.

Vicky. · 25-01-2017, 10:16 AM

If anything MORE funding needs to be put into stuff like this. I don't know if America is the same as here, but you get no counseling, no information, just get given a pill here. No discussion about it or anything.

Brillopad · 25-01-2017, 10:17 AM

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According to DM Strump wants to start building the Mexican wall today. What about the Russian migrants? I can't wait for everything to backfire on his stupid ass

That's a good dose of wishful thinking you have going on there.

You may be happy to live in a country becoming more and more dangerous to live in due to crime from illegals involved in drug and gun crime but most don't. Very short-sighted viewpoint.

Niamh. · 25-01-2017, 10:20 AM

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That's a good dose of wishful thinking you have going on there.

You may be happy to live in a country becoming more and more dangerous to live in due to crime from illegals involved in drug and gun crime but most don't. Very short-sighted viewpoint.

But he won't even think about tackling gun laws though will he, too much cash involved in that and big corporations with a stake in those companies I would imagine. It's all very selective

MB. · 25-01-2017, 10:25 AM

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I'm sure President Trump values your very thoughtful and insightful opinion. Not.

...says the person who compared abortion to the Holocaust

the truth · 25-01-2017, 10:45 AM

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...says the person who compared abortion to the Holocaust

similar death count

Niamh. · 25-01-2017, 10:47 AM

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similar death count

Of course sometimes is ok to murder a baby though, isn't Truth, if the woman is raped for example?

Brillopad · 25-01-2017, 11:07 AM

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But he won't even think about tackling gun laws though will he, too much cash involved in that and big corporations with a stake in those companies I would imagine. It's all very selective

Changes to gun laws aren't likely to significantly impact on guns used by illegals. They can get them elsewhere. So any changes in guns laws aren't likely to effect the increased gang and gun crimes.