[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Well thats what happens when a you vote a majority

Ok, anyway I was just saying that Greg did actually say 4 countries

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Greg!

The EU is 28 independent countries with an equal voice working together. The UK is 3 non-independent countries that have the vast majority of their decisions taken for them by one bigger neighbour. They're completely different.

If you want to be part of the EU you follow the rules.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

If you want to be part of the EU you follow the rules.

Josy
are you ready for the €uro?

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Josy

If you want to be part of the EU you follow the rules.

Omg you don't say!

I'd rather an independent Scotland followed the select rules voted on by the EU member states than not be a proper country that's governed by Tories for the foreseeable future

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Oh Arista you really aren't helping your case at all. Last week Northern Ireland is Englands property, this week you won't do what them inferior Scots tell you mmhhmm. Not so much of a "Union" in your eyes is it?

I love trading with Scotland.

BUT they can only have vote after 2019
when we have left the EU

Is that OK
Fine Lady

[arista]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Omg you don't say!

I'd rather an independent Scotland followed the select rules voted on by the EU member states than not be a proper country that's governed by Tories for the foreseeable future

Not a problem
once the UK has left the corrupt EU
so around mid 2019
or before.
Is that OK Greg?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Omg you don't say!

I'd rather an independent Scotland followed the select rules voted on by the EU member states than not be a proper country that's governed by Tories for the foreseeable future

You dont get it?

You will have no Independency at all

The EU will take your money

Force you to follow unnecessary rules

You wont get freedom of speech

You will have to pay for health care

You wont get unemployment benefits

You taxes will most likely be sky high

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Adam.

You dont get it?

You will have no Independency at all

The EU will take your money

Force you to follow unnecessary rules

You wont get freedom of speech

You will have to pay for health care

You wont get unemployment benefits

You taxes will most likely be sky high

Hate to break it to you but the UK will still need to pay billions to the EU anyway if they want any chance of getting a good trade deal. Plus the EU is good value for money with all the funding they give for projects across the Europe and the UK.

Pretty sure being in the EU doesn't mean you don't have freedom of speech

Give me an example of unnecessary rules? You can disagree with them all you want (and I do with some of them) but they have a purpose.

Why would we have to pay for healthcare and why would unemployment benefits be axed? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

[Cherry Christmas]

I heard a star morning that Scotland does more trade with the U.K. Than it does with the EU so not sure why the SNP want to turn their backs on that in favour of the single market

The other irony is Nicola ignoring the wishes of the people she represents just a few years after they made their feelings known

[Greg!]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I heard a star morning that Scotland does more trade with the U.K. Than it does with the EU so not sure why the SNP want to turn their backs on that in favour of the single market

The other irony is Nicola ignoring the wishes of the people she represents just a few years after they made their feelings known

And trade with the rest of the UK would stop because.....? Nicola Sturgeon is not Theresa May, she doesn't want to rip her country out of any single markets

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Adam.

You dont get it?

You will have no Independency at all

The EU will take your money

Force you to follow unnecessary rules

You wont get freedom of speech

You will have to pay for health care

You wont get unemployment benefits

You taxes will most likely be sky high

Umm we're in th Eu and have free healthcare and unemployment benefit? Actually our unemploymwnt benefit is one of the highest in Europe

[ChristmasNeeve]

Also since when is free speech against EU law?

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Greg!

And trade with the rest of the UK would stop because.....? Nicola Sturgeon is not Theresa May, she doesn't want to rip her country out of any single markets

As Scotland would no longer be part of the UK trade deals would have to be negotiated similar to how the UK have to renegotiate with the EU

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Also since when is free speech against EU law?

History tells you free speech is looked down on you are expected to do as you are told when you are told

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Greg!

Hate to break it to you but the UK will still need to pay billions to the EU anyway if they want any chance of getting a good trade deal. Plus the EU is good value for money with all the funding they give for projects across the Europe and the UK.

Pretty sure being in the EU doesn't mean you don't have freedom of speech

Give me an example of unnecessary rules? You can disagree with them all you want (and I do with some of them) but they have a purpose.

Why would we have to pay for healthcare and why would unemployment benefits be axed? It doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

The UK will not be held to ransom over trade deals and will pay what they feel is a fair price.

The EU dont fund projects all over Europe hey have destroyed many economies

Scotland would not be able to afford a benefits system or health care they will be in a position like Poland or Romania.

Unnecessary rules is free movement without checks which has led to a major attack on France

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Umm we're in th Eu and have free healthcare and unemployment benefit? Actually our unemploymwnt benefit is one of the highest in Europe

Most countries dont have a so called benefits system.

A guy in Bulgaria told me when we was talking about Brexit that they have to live off about £100 without working and that includes rent bills food everything which is impossible and the pension there is disgraceful

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Greg!

And trade with the rest of the UK would stop because.....? Nicola Sturgeon is not Theresa May, she doesn't want to rip her country out of any single markets

Scotland will be at the back of the line when it comes to trading with the UK

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by Adam.

History tells you free speech is looked down upon you are expected to do as you are told when you are told

try saying that to a north korean refugee

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Scotland will be at the back of the line when it comes to trading with the UK

i love obama

[Denver]

Originally Posted by RichardG

i love obama

Why should they expect to be the top of the list?

[Alf]

Is there a main political party leader (apart from Nige Farage) from the past 30 years, that didn't want to stay in the EU?

Cameron very vocal to stay in.
Blair and Major came crawling out the wood-work, desperate to stay in.

Milliband, Kinnock, Hague, Brown, Corbyn all desperate to remain. The SNP leaders, the Green party leaders.

The only one I can think of who wanted out, who was a party leader, is Iain Duncan Smith.

I wonder why?

Do you think they might have had something to lose personally? or where they fighting for the good of the country? If political history tells us anything, then I'd guess the former.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Alf

Is there a main political party leader (apart from Nige Farage) from the past 30 years, that didn't want to stay in the EU?

Cameron very vocal to stay in.
Blair and Major came crawling out the wood-work, desperate to stay in.

Milliband, Kinnock, Hague, Brown, Corbyn all desperate to remain. The SNP leaders, the Green party leaders.

The only one I can think of who wanted out, who was a party leader, is Iain Duncan Smith.

I wonder why?

Do you think they might have had something to lose personally? or where they fighting for the good of the country? If political history tells us anything, then I'd guess the former.

Tbh more politicians want out then they state

[Denver]

The EU has said an independent Scotland would have to join a queue of nations seeking membership of the bloc, after Nicola Sturgeon announced plans for a second independence referendum.

Wading into the debate on the Scottish Government’s plans for a second vote, a spokesman for the European Commission (EC) said Scotland would not be granted automatic access to the EU if it split from the rest of the UK.

[Denver]

So years of uncertainty for the future of Scotland

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Most countries dont have a so called benefits system.

A guy in Bulgaria told me when we was talking about Brexit that they have to live off about £100 without working and that includes rent bills food everything which is impossible and the pension there is disgraceful

How is that tbe EUs fault though, Bulgaria was like that before they joined the EU aswell