[Denver]

She is the new Churchill

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Black Dagger

If you think Theresa won't ruin the country herself that's on you hun.

Can only give it a try. Labour failed to do it properly so they can't do it

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Can only give it a try. Labour failed to do it properly so they can't do it

I like your logic.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

I'm sorry but anyone who believes Labour did a good job when it was in government needs to love themselves

Hmm, well Labour did set up the NHS. They did bring us the minimum wage and brought in family tax credit for the working poor. Labour put together trade unions to give people like you and me a voice and later repealed anti-trade union legislation. Oh and they banned fox hunting.

They've done some pretty crap things too. Going to war in Iraq was one of them but then I never thought of Blair as Labour. I mean, if he'd gone any further right he would of ended up in Thatchers back passage.

[Kizzy]

Because chunky mark wants us to!!

Youtube video

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Hmm, well Labour did set up the NHS. They did bring us the minimum wage and brought in family tax credit for the working poor. Labour put together trade unions to give people like you and me a voice and later repealed anti-trade union legislation. Oh and they banned fox hunting.

They've done some pretty crap things too. Going to war in Iraq was one of them but then I never thought of Blair as Labour. I mean, if he'd gone any further right he would of ended up in Thatchers back passage.

Well Blair was the one who introduced the minimum wage (and who banned fox hunting for that matter)

Edit - and tax credits actually

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Can only give it a try. Labour failed to do it properly so they can't do it

Forget the old New Labour because what Labour is now, is very different to anything we have ever seen in our lifetime. What makes you pro Tory and what makes you despise Corbyn?

[Scarlett.]

I'm voting Labour because

A) My local Tory MP is a twat
B) Because I believe in Corbyn, he is a man who sticks to his beliefs, even if they aren't going to win him votes, he is the first politician that I believe in. Yeah, he ain't perfect, but he's better than strong and unstable May.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

I'm with you.I think i'm going with Labour too.I think.
There are a few fundamental things that have always put me off Corbyn and alot i like but he's too far left for me and i can't fecking stand abbott!
However the manifesto has put my mind at ease slightly on the Trident issue and i also think i read somewhere that they'll accept an end to free movement.
I like the renationalation ideas too.The election is about more than just Brexit.
One thing i've never done and never will is vote Tory so I wasn't going to vote at all but i do feel i can hold my nose and vote Corbyn on this manifesto.
I do know that it's a wasted vote.For one he's got no chance and two my vote won't matter anyway as i'm in a Labour stronghold.

I can't say I'm surprised. You often come across as an independent thinker.

My biggest swing for Labour is how they plan to balance the budget. It appears that many leading economists are very excited about how the Labour party plan to be self funding, which means, everything they promise in their manifesto can happen without putting the country in debt.

[King Gizzard]

Man like Jeremy

[waterhog]

I think I will vote labour because ? I have not taken my medication.

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Chewy

I'm voting Labour because

A) My local Tory MP is a twat
B) Because I believe in Corbyn, he is a man who sticks to his beliefs, even if they aren't going to win him votes, he is the first politician that I believe in. Yeah, he ain't perfect, but he's better than strong and unstable May.

This isn't just a normal election though. There is a lot more at stake - Brexit. If he really believes he would be a better future for many people he may tell some porkies.

Also he knows this is his last chance, he will never lead the party again or ever lead the country. No politician is that honest.

There have been a lot of doubts raised over his manifesto and some people want to believe his policies sooooo much. It is all too unrealistic.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Well Blair was the one who introduced the minimum wage (and who banned fox hunting for that matter)

Edit - and tax credits actually

Yes he did but Blair also took our ill equipped troops into Iraq in 2003 under the lie of 'WMD' and his support for Bush over the Israel-Lebanon war isn't something that will be quickly forgotten.

[JTM45]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Theresa will make Britain Great again

Like Trump has done to the US you mean ?

She's an elitist clown who wants to sell out what's left of our Country after Thatcher started the rot back in the day.

Jolly ****ing hockeysticks! Vile woman.

[Cherie]

Bloody hell, what a flip flopper you are Truth

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Adam.

She is the new Churchill

She does remind me of that nodding dog off the adverts, it's true Adam

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Bloody hell, what a flip flopper you are Truth

I may be a flipper, but never a flopper

[Scarlett.]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

This isn't just a normal election though. There is a lot more at stake - Brexit. If he really believes he would be a better future for many people he may tell some porkies.

Also he knows this is his last chance, he will never lead the party again or ever lead the country. No politician is that honest.

There have been a lot of doubts raised over his manifesto and some people want to believe his policies sooooo much. It is all too unrealistic.

Brexit is Brexit.

Labour wants the NHS to survive, the Tories seem intent on privatization. The NHS is more important than Brexit.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Bloody hell, what a flip flopper you are Truth

Is that like a fence sitter?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is that like a fence sitter?

Better to have an open mind than blindly following

[waterhog]

depends if the leader is also blind ?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by waterhog

depends if the leader is also blind ?

And if said leader is blindly following ..

[ebandit]

...............always voted labour..........always will

...............well? apart from that time i voted green

Mark L

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

There have been a lot of doubts raised over his manifesto and some people want to believe his policies sooooo much. It is all too unrealistic.

What makes you believe they are unrealistic? From what I understand, its not unrealistic at all. I'm old enough and wise enough not to fall for everything I'm told. Nobody has brain washed me and so before I believe anything, I research the possibilities. Hell, I've been scorned on here for gaining my knowledge from google... like that's a bad thing! At least its given me a thorough understanding of 'neoliberalism'; that the early days of neoliberalism (Thatcher) are long gone and impossible to re-generate under this present ideology. To understand those hazy days under Thatcher and Blair, of buying up property and land for a pittance, insuring a healthy pension pot, is over and that means the next generations have nothing but struggle and debt ahead of them.

I'm all right Jack is a selfish attitude. We need to think about our kids, the next generation.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Glenn.

Can only give it a try. Labour failed to do it properly so they can't do it

We have given it a try! and simple mathematics tell us that its a big fail. The only thing that can get us out of the mess we find ourselves in is to do something radical but I doubt that will happen any time soon because whilst we are reasonably comfortable, (learnt to accept that everything is now much more expensive and personal debt is fine) we will fear change.