[Livia]

Another example of the peace-loving Islamic faith. Those justifying it, acquaint yourselves with what Pakistan is like for women.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Livia

Another example of the peace-loving Islamic faith. Those justifying it, acquaint yourselves with what Pakistan is like for women.

Thats why people should watch these videos. Take away that " i aint seen it so it doesnt happen" mentallity.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Religion doesnt come in to it at all

Edit: I just reread the OP, I don't think Brillo read the article

Of course we can't criticise that religion, we must turn a blind eye at all costs.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Of course we can't criticise that religion, we must turn a blind eye at all costs.

I don't understand the link to Muslims apart from the OP of the thread. Have you read the article? Or just read Brillos take on it. Religion isnt mentioned at all.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Of course we can't criticise that religion, we must turn a blind eye at all costs.

If this was about Muslims, then why are they bad for setting a warrant on the entire jurys arrest
Why are muslims bad for putting the woman in refuge
Why are muslims bad for putting a warrant on the alleged rapists arrest

Christ read the article and not clickbait titles. This is an unfinished story that is likely to have a happier ending. Sorry that doesnt fit with the anti-muslim agenda. Its clear you haven't read the article.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Thats why people should watch these videos. Take away that " i aint seen it so it doesnt happen" mentallity.

Oh **** off! should we all watch the ISIS beheading too? should we watch the Chinese videos of Chinese cooks throwing live cats into boiling water? Do we need to watch these things to know it goes on?

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

If this was about Muslims, then why are they bad for setting a warrant on the entire jurys arrest
Why are muslims bad for putting the woman in refuge
Why are muslims bad for putting a warrant on the alleged rapists arrest

Christ read the article and not clickbait titles. This is an unfinished story that is likely to have a happier ending. Sorry that doesnt fit with the anti-muslim agenda. Its clear you haven't read the article.

Clearly you didn't read what I said. And don't know much about the country in the article.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Are we talking about that peaceful religion again that must be defended at all costs?This isn't the religion, right, just one little bitty corner of it? Of course she forced him to get out his gun. Was she covered from head to foot as well the temptress? If Justice is served by the police I wonder what her life will be like 5 years down the line if her own family haven't honor killed her.

Nobody is defending it at all costs. Some of us just don't like the onslaught of hatred on here and elsewhere. Some of us want to stop this turning into a war on our own shore against one religious people.

I care very much about what the Saudis, Afghans and Yemen do to their women. I think its equally barbaric that the Chinese execute people en masse but I'm not going to go out of my way to demonize Chinese people just as I'm not going to join in the cheering hatred of Muslim wrongs on here.
Its pointless, it gets venomous and it has a reflection on who we are as human beings.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Clearly you didn't read what I said. And don't know much about the country in the article.

You went on about religion despite it not being a relevant factor, thats all I was commenting on. You'll see what I mean after you read the article.
There are probably hundreds of threads on tibb where you criticising the Muslim faith might make sense (and make you look terrible but thats your prerogative). It doesnt make sense to share those views here.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Nobody is defending it at all costs. Some of us just don't like the onslaught of hatred on here and elsewhere. Some of us want to stop this turning into a war on our own shore against one religious people.

I care very much about what the Saudis, Afghans and Yemen do to their women. I think its equally barbaric that the Chinese execute people en masse but I'm not going to go out of my way to demonize Chinese people just as I'm not going to join in the cheering hatred of Muslim wrongs on here.
Its pointless, it gets venomous and it has a reflection on who we are as human beings.

Some of us aren't closing our eyes to the more unpleasant elements of certain religions. Some of us aren't demonising people, we're pointing out some really nasty aspects of some religious beliefs.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Withano

You went on about religion despite it not being a relevant factor, thats all I was commenting on. You'll see what I mean after you read the article.

yeah tbf the article doesn't even mention what religion that council were, I googled that word for the council and it's not specific to Islam, it could also be Hindu so presumably it's more about tribal "justice" rather than religious and clearly the law of the land don't agree with it

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

You went on about religion despite it not being a relevant factor, thats all I was commenting on. You'll see what I mean after you read the article.
There are probably hundreds of threads on tibb where you criticising the Muslim faith might make sense (and make you look terrible but thats your prerogative). It doesnt make sense to share those views here.

If you really believe that I can't help you.

I also quite happily criticise other faith and ridiculous archaic doctrine.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

yeah tbf the article doesn't even mention what religion that council were, I googled that word for the council and it's not specific to Islam, it could also be Hindu so presumably it's more about tribal "justice" rather than religious

Its literally a story about authorities in the country bringing justice to the victim. Religion isn't relevant, it never was.
the bad guys in the story are getting arrested, the good guys in the story are making that happen, and the victim in the story is safe. Whether they share a religion or not is irrelevant! I dont know how the thread spiralled here (AGAIN!)

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

If you really believe that I can't help you.

I also quite happily criticise other faith and ridiculous archaic doctrine.

Originally Posted by Withano

If this was about Muslims, then why are they bad for setting a warrant on the entire jurys arrest
Why are muslims bad for putting the woman in refuge
Why are muslims bad for putting a warrant on the alleged rapists arrest

Christ read the article and not clickbait titles. This is an unfinished story that is likely to have a happier ending. Sorry that doesnt fit with the anti-muslim agenda. Its clear you haven't read the article.

Then answer these questions. If its about all muslims being bad, explain how this fits with your take on the article.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

yeah tbf the article doesn't even mention what religion that council were, I googled that word for the council and it's not specific to Islam, it could also be Hindu so presumably it's more about tribal "justice" rather than religious and clearly the law of the land don't agree with it

The state religion in Pakistan is Islam where it is practised by 95 to 98% of the people of the nation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Pakistan

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Then answer these questions. If its about all muslims being bad, explain how this fits with your take on the article.

This is again where you read what you want to see rather than what I say. I have never said anything about all Muslims being bad. What I have said is there are problems in their religion and beliefs. Beliefs are taught, no person is born with them.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by jaxie

This is again where you read what you want to see rather than what I say. I have never said anything about all Muslims being bad. What I have said is there are problems in their religion and beliefs. Beliefs are taught, no person is born with them.

Thats makes no sense unless you believe that the authorities are part of the 2% of non-muslim people bringing the jury to justice. Honestly read the article!

One jury member was related to the rapist.
Authorities are arresting all of them.
This is nothing to do with religion.

There are good people and bad people in this one story who obviously have different beliefs. You brushed them all together because you didn't read the article and you wanted to spew hatred.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

The state religion in Pakistan is Islam where it is practised by 95 to 98% of the people of the nation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_Pakistan

Yes I know that.

What's 2-5% of 188.9million?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Oh **** off! should we all watch the ISIS beheading too? should we watch the Chinese videos of Chinese cooks throwing live cats into boiling water? Do we need to watch these things to know it goes on?

No need for insults by the way.

Yes we should watch so we bring the full horror of these punishments to life.

Also if you are willing to argue and debate with (as well as insulting) other people its best to have the full facts no matter how horrific.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Withano

Its literally a story about authorities in the country bringing justice to the victim. Religion isn't relevant, it never was.
the bad guys in the story are getting arrested, the good guys in the story are making that happen, and the victim in the story is safe. Whether they share a religion or not is irrelevant! I dont know how the thread spiralled here (AGAIN!)

So she is innocent and they are guilty....without a proper trial!!

Ever fancied moving to the rural areas of pakistan?

[Vanessa]

Saw this on Facebook. Sad that these things still happen on the 21st century

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes I know that.

What's 2-5% of 188.9million?

Don't know but anything official like a council is pretty unlikely to be anything but Islam based. You can't be a judge or run for President if you aren't a Muslim.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Withano

Thats makes no sense unless you believe that the authorities are part of the 2% of non-muslim people bringing the jury to justice. Honestly read the article!

One jury member was related to the rapist.
Authorities are arresting all of them.
This is nothing to do with religion.

There are good people and bad people in this one story who obviously have different beliefs. You brushed them all together because you didn't read the article and you wanted to spew hatred.

If you are just going to presume what I'm wanting don't bother to respond. It's quite easy really. You interpret what I say for your own ends. I'll say again I'm not talking about people I'm talking about beliefs.

[Withano]

Originally Posted by parmnion

So she is innocent and they are guilty....without a proper trial!!

Ever fancied moving to the rural areas of pakistan?

Getting arrested doesn't make you guilty? You took a leap and threw words in my mouth there

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Don't know but anything official like a council is pretty unlikely to be anything but Islam based. You can't be a judge or run for President if you aren't a Muslim.

a village panchayat isn't official like a judge or president though, it's a council that runs individual villages, presumably if the village is Hindi then their council would be too? I'm not saying it was but since the article didn't mention religion at all I don't see how either could be ruled out