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DrunkerThanMoses · 17-07-2017, 11:52 PM

Part 1 of my plea

So I never wanted to play this game in all honestly, I hate playing forum games because I always get sucked in and become aggressive, all I want to do is win and become competitive, I only applied because Tom bribed me when I asked him to help me in a task for the Challenge (he then joined that game a day later lol). Coming in I was not really sure what I was going to do, when the cast was announced I straight away asked for a final 2 with Jersey as I like chatting to him in the bbus threads, and we have the similar taste. Our plan would be to reengaged ourselves to the end, and even called ourselves the revoulationors (lame I know), but I also started talking to Jamie as we won the challenge together and I got to know him a bit better. Early on he was telling me he thought he would be going as he won the game before; at this point I did not know he won so I searched back and studied both the games (good job Tom) that had been done before, and tried to study what comps might come up.

First HOH, if you guys look back, I was the first one who suggested Super to be the HOH, as I felt good about him being HOH, and I was right, he asked me who should be nominated. He told me a lot was saying Josh but I said Cal and Dan and the noms worked out well for me. I wanted Josh around as he was an easy target for others.

The second HOH, the team challenge, actually had an 13 hour shift the next day so I came up for the menu and idea for strawberry and cream sushi. Thankfully we won the task and was safe . With the vote, I thought it was Dan and Firewire going, but Jamie switch at the last min (or he might have been voting that way all along), so this is when I became suspicious of Jamie, but I didn’t want him gone because I was still wanted to work with him because I felt he might keep me safe. Again my strategy was to keep people who I felt would keep me safe, and get rid of people I never spoke to, Jamie was someone I spoke to so I felt okay with him. But I was suspicious of him.

Anyway the next HOH, was 24 hour one, I knew either Jersey or Super would win, me and Jersey had an alliance so it was just telling Super if I throw it to him, he would keep me safe, and I advised Jersey the same. Again Super took my advice on noms, his renom of Jason was a surprise for me, but I really didn’t message him to pick a renom.

Now what I think is my best moment in the game, the secret HOH, I was on my phone at the time as I had a friend over, I quickly got my laptop not bothering to post in the thread, and I suprising won secret hoh, knowing they could be nommed if caught, I threw Jamie up, part of the reason was because I wanted too see how he would and everyone would react, plus I wanted to pin it on Josh, it worked out for me as no one suspected me, the reason for putting Marsh up is because again I wanted to try under the radar and not be renominated/found out, so picked someone random. I also think I go back to getting Super not to nominate Josh as he was still around to be a target.

More to follow

JerseyWins · 18-07-2017, 12:06 AM

Checking in from my phone quickly. To answer Hayden's question before I forget again lol

The two jury member votes Id cancel out: Firewire because he was first member of jury and also SuperV because why not remove the first & last members. SuperV has also had the least time to discuss with the jury.

Can't make my final plea now but again stay tuned for later tonight.

DrunkerThanMoses · 18-07-2017, 12:18 AM

Part 2

With Jason returning I was talking to him a bit more, my main targets were Firewire, Ross and Hayden, I never spoke to any of them; and once again my strategy was keep people I was in an alliance with and get rid of people who I was never in an alliance with. The first hoh I won with Jason was the letter E one, I wanted to win this one because 1. It was a double and 2, I had two 13 hour shifts in row the next 2 days so wanted to make sure I was safe. I even suggested to Jason we talk about the big brother episode to get out posts over 50 so we could win as we had the same targerts. Thankfully we both won and I could put up 2 of my main targets, while Jason did Ross another of my targets. There was not much I could do about keeping Jamie in, I would have rather ross gone as I know he did so well in the survivor I hosted with Reece last year, and I was still in an alliance with Jamie. But again I was too busy in work that weekend.

The next HOH Super won, and he again asked for me picks of noms, I suggested Ross and Hayden, so was surprised when it was Morgan and Hayden, it worked out fine because then Morgan started spilling to me a deal he made with Super, Ross and Tregard, this is when I felt I was getting closer to Morgan and generally wanted to work with him. So I felt at this point I had Morgan, Jersey, Super, Jason and maybe Reece working with me. The following HOH, another 24 hours won, once again I knew Jersey was going to win because he had an advantage when we all slept in uk, and with Super not playing he had best chance to win. I told Morgan to make a deal with him if he threw HOH to him and told jersey to accept this deal (again showing Jersey followed what I said), and then jersey won and did the nominations I wanted. With the vote, I told jersey to renom Super as a pawn and he did, it was a risk that nearly went haywire, but I thought Jason and Morgan was going to evict Hayden, so well done Jason you blindsided me lol.

Obviously the next HOH is where it went badly, I spent 5 hours, a tad tipsy getting all the answers , and I even gave some to Morgan and Jason in hope one of them could win with me. My target was Ross this round, with Reece as a pawn (by this time I spoke the least to him), but obviously Ross wins the second HOH, and POV and ruins it all lol. So I put up Super and Reece (I trusted Morgan and Jeresy more at this point), but then obviously it all went bad and Jason and Reece left and I was left with Ross who I hardly spoke to and both Super/Morgan pissed at me for nominating them. I suggested to Jersey to vote to keep Jason as he might go after Ross for us. Maybe bad advice and it didn’t work out well, but none the less it shows Jersey listening to me and not going with his gut.

My final part coming up.. .(sorry it’s a long plea, but I want to get as much out there as possible)

DrunkerThanMoses · 18-07-2017, 12:42 AM

Part 3

So at final 5 I wanted Jeresy to win, this is where all my studying and writing notes came in handy, as I could not take part I gave him the answers, he has admitting himself he needed help winning the comp. With him winning, I knew his noms would be Ross and Super, the only thing I needed to happen was to make sure Morgan did not win veto incase he took one nom down, so thankfully he had a birthday party so no chance of me going up even if ross or super won veto. I worked hard to win that veto anyway because my target was still Ross (I was building trust with Morgan and Super again at this point).obviously I wanted to make final 4 with 3 others people I was working with. Just to add Jersey was suggesting to get Morgan out here if the veto was used, just to point out I said no to this idea. With Ross gone I felt good in the final 4.

Now comes my decision to vote Morgan out, obviously I did not want to get the blood on my hands, I would have rather someone else did, but hey I won a luck chance veto. I have all ready pointed out my reason for evicting Morgan and Keeping Jersey.
1. I felt Jersey and Super would both take me and evict one another
2. Morgan could be seen as a fancy pick to take to final 2 as he didn’t win any comps, so I didn’t want to give Super the chose
3. If I won the final HOH I wanted to evict Jersey, because I felt I would beat Super eaiser, plus you jury were complaing about lack of drama so I wanted to shock people.

So in conclusion, even though I was questioning if I wanted to play this game, I am glad I did, I got suckered in again, and played the game as I am a competitor and like a challenge, like I said, I know I have not played the best game ever, and made mistakes, but I learnt from them, and it helped me get to final 2. I played strategically, made the correct alliances, won the comps when I needed to. Jersey himself has posted that he did what I wanted him to do, I had to help him, why reward someone who was told what to do in the game, I have made points off other times I called the shots behind the scenes, I hope you all can respect the game I played, and I appreciate if you vote for me.

Thank you all for the challenge and to Tom as well, working 13 hour shifts, taking my dad to hostipal at one point, giving blood and feeling tired…. I still tried to play even with all that happening in my life, this shows how determined I was to play and win this game. What even happens I all hope you can apply for Survivor TIBB, me and Reece would appreciate it… thank you guys. Sorry for the long plea.

DrunkerThanMoses · 18-07-2017, 12:44 AM

I hope that answers any questions, thank you

JerseyWins · 18-07-2017, 06:57 AM

Final plea

I'm putting this together late at night right before I go to sleep so excuse me if anything doesn't make too sense or seems to be skipping around or something like that.

I started this game thinking I wanted to play a game that gets me voted out early or gets me all the way to the end and I kinda made it to the end without a scratch tbh. Early on I aligned with a majority of the cast in some way... either I told the person let's have each others' backs or I got in some form of alliance or jury deal with people. People I worked with included: Morgan, Tregard, Jamie, SuperV, DTM, Jason, reece, Ross, Firewire (although with Firewire it was just linked through an alliance... when I found out early on through Morgan that he was throwing Jason under the bus and that he & Ross were working outside of our 6 person alliance, I decided to not work with Firewire at all and targeted him through others' HOH's). I even tried to make a bit of a deal with Hayden too when he entered the game but I didn't get too much of a response so I decided to not try with that as I had a lot of people I was working with anyway.

Anyway, that's almost the entire jury that I was working with in one way or another, again some more than others. People could have connected this and taken me out yet I was never nominated by an HOH until the final 4 so people always felt close enough to me to not even put me on the block. Honestly, the entire pre-jury went exactly the way I wanted to as it's filled with people I didn't speak to much or at all in the game. That's why I threw HOH's to people I trusted enough, like SuperV, to keep me safe and go after others that he'd tell me he's going after, because our targets matched and I didn't need to get the blood on my hands.

Another thing is, DTM didn't know about the connections I had with people. Like we did tell each other about allies and people we could talk to in order to help each other out and things like that. For example, he told me about an alliance with Jason & SuperV and relationships with others like Jamie while I told him about a jury deal I made with Morgan & Jamie (this was how we started seeing that Jamie was working multiple angles... I mentioned this but not Morgan & Tregard because I already knew Jamie was playing a lot of sides based on SuperV telling me he was close with him and also things Jason would say and what not... If things went wrong with the alliance of DTM/Jason/reece, I had planned to try to make it to the end with Morgan & Tregard instead but they eventually got nominated together so there went that opportunity as one had to go). Still, I never showed how close I actually was to people like SuperV, Morgan and I never mentioned Tregard at all thinking that a situation may arise later where I'd need to flip to Morgan & Tregard if I really needed to do that. I discussed a whole bunch of things with Morgan in particular. DTM would tell me or Morgan to make deals with each other but that wasn't needed because we already had trust with each other. I don't think Morgan actually ever made a deal with me like DTM suggested. But I would tell DTM what he wanted to hear to downplay how close me & Morgan were and I'd say things like "cool I haven't spoke with Morgan in a while but I feel good about that".. The only deal we actually made was Morgan's initial pre-game request to work together until jury which I said could be a lot longer past that because I don't know many people on here and don't know who to align with. But I was already actually aligned with some people which is probably the main reason I was never 100% with Morgan which was unfortunate since I really liked working with him too but you can't give your main loyalty to everyone in the game. I also knew about a lot of SuperV's HOH plans and who he was going to vote out each week sometimes before DTM would let me know (in times when it was important) because me & SuperV would discuss those things frequently but I tried to keep my relationship with SuperV as lowkey as I could too. I knew that DTM was closer to SuperV though based on things he'd say.

Which brings me to the F3 scenario... if SuperV won the final HOH I was going to make a big argument to SuperV to take me over DTM, explaining how DTM has told me about his relationship/alliance with him and include a plea about how much of a bigger threat DTM was in the game with his comp wins, etc. even though I was always involved with it as well. However, although I respect DTM's game I think he's made mistakes including with his HOH reigns. Nominating SuperV & reece was a mistake considering Ross was the one-nom HOH that week because we suddenly lost the numbers to keep Jason after he was Ross's obvious nomination. That HOH reign was a big blow to his game and he admits that himself and if I wasn't a loyal player at the end of the day, DTM would not be in the final 2 because of it. While we've took each others' points in discussions, I think that I've had most of the better instincts in the game based on what I've answered in my questions and I've made the decisions to help further my own game. I know plenty were his allies too but most of my closest allies are the ones who made it to the end including Ross who I wanted to go far (until I had to cut him for being a huge threat *cassandra.gif*) and was probably a bigger ally with me than he was with DTM. That's not me just following his advice.

In fact as it's been stated already... one of the few times I took DTM's advice was during that HOH reign. I was conflicted because of the situation and he told me to keep Jason thinking the vote would go 2-1 with Jason staying. Even though I felt like it wasn't going to and I told him that it wasn't going to work, I went for it anyway because I REALLY wanted to keep Jason in the game at that point. The thing is this didn't even need to be a dilemma with different nominations in the first place.

It backfired on both of us though so no I don't think DTM's advice got me to this point.

I got myself here but let others do the dirty work a lot of the time so that I could keep coasting by. I let DTM and other comp beasts like SuperV win the HOH's (and secret HOH for DTM which he told me about as soon as he won and I told him to put up Jamie & then Marsh or Hayden which he followed). I felt confident they would take out the same targets I had and even got DTM to help me win an HOH in final 5 to get me into the final 4 while HE was potentially still in danger if the POV got in Morgan's hands. After Jason & reece previously went under his HOH, it was important that I won that next one. With my F5 HOH, I took out Ross, a major comp threat and winner threat and taking Ross out was something DTM couldn't do with multiple opportunities before that. In the end I won a good amount of the comps because that's when they matter the most and most were on my own but possibly the most important one at F5 was with the help of DTM - someone who I built enough trust with to win an HOH for me. Finally, I won the HOH that mattered the most, the F3 HOH, all on my own to control my own destiny into the final 2 and hopefully win this game.

Win or lose, I had a lot of fun playing this game and it's only my second game ever on this site. Dan took Memphis to the end and still won. I believe you can stay loyal to your #1 ally in the end and still be viewed more positively by your jury to win the game and I hope that's the case. Either way, great game to everyone and good luck to DTM!

JerseyWins · 18-07-2017, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JerseyWins

doesn't make too sense

One of the first things I read after posting that.

Gonna just leave it though for the irony.

I need some sleep now as I have to wake up pretty early tomorrow and I'm up making this final plea up until 3:00 AM. (I usually sleep late anyway so whatever lol)

I'll try to answer anything else right after I finish work but because UK time, things might already be wrapping up by then with the votes.

Anyway, I don't think I played a perfect game by any means but I hope people liked my game enough to give me their vote.

I kinda followed #AnyoneButMe through a lot of this game (respect to Sandra

) but now hopefully the votes go to me in the end.

If not it's all in fun anyway.

ADIOS!

Good luck again DTM, it was fun.

Revolutioneers 4eva *cringe*

DrunkerThanMoses · 18-07-2017, 08:37 AM

How did you convince me to put up Jamie or Marsh when I was secret hoh? I told you I was going to nominate Jamie for the reasons I gave and you agreed saying that was a good idea so I would not get caught. If anything you was just telling me that your wanted me to go un noticed and that you would throw others name out there as the sevret hoh if asked by others. But that will be it from me as I've been working non stop the last few days so need to rest and chill with friends. Probably wont be here tonight so best of luck jersey. It's been a pleasure playing with you and thank you to tom and all the other players

Jamie89 · 18-07-2017, 10:59 AM

Excellent pleas and answers both of you

you've made this decision very hard! I'll wait before voting incase anything else comes up but I think I have my winner - you're both very deserving though.

(FYI re. me playing all sides, I wasn't really, I was just helping people out where I could when they asked for it, they weren't really 'loyalties' for the most part, but I was still loyal to both of you whenever we had any agreements/deals - moreso with Jon probably as that was one of my main alliances from my point of view. I wasn't playing very strategically this time around though so I can see how my 'game' may have been misconstrued.)

T* · 18-07-2017, 03:37 PM

TONIGHT!
Tea will be spilt!
A winner will be crowned!
R3VOLUTION will be coming to a very special end!

reece(: · 18-07-2017, 06:09 PM

Very hard decision guys, but I took a lot into account and have made my vote

JerseyWins · 18-07-2017, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DrunkerThanMoses

How did you convince me to put up Jamie or Marsh when I was secret hoh? I told you I was going to nominate Jamie for the reasons I gave and you agreed saying that was a good idea so I would not get caught. If anything you was just telling me that your wanted me to go un noticed and that you would throw others name out there as the sevret hoh if asked by others. But that will be it from me as I've been working non stop the last few days so need to rest and chill with friends. Probably wont be here tonight so best of luck jersey. It's been a pleasure playing with you and thank you to tom and all the other players

I just felt like you were closer to Jamie than I was so that's why I was saying Jamie even before you got the secret HOH. It was better for me since I wasn't talking to Jamie as much as you were. But yeah maybe it's just another thing we agreed on as we had similar motives throughout the game.

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Originally Posted by Jamie89

(FYI re. me playing all sides, I wasn't really, I was just helping people out where I could when they asked for it, they weren't really 'loyalties' for the most part, but I was still loyal to both of you whenever we had any agreements/deals - moreso with Jon probably as that was one of my main alliances from my point of view. I wasn't playing very strategically this time around though so I can see how my 'game' may have been misconstrued.)

Yeah it's also just that as a previous winner you were kinda a big threat to me regardless.

JerseyWins · 18-07-2017, 06:26 PM

Vote reveal in 30 mins right?

T* · 18-07-2017, 06:31 PM

No, the finale is at 9
The vote closes at 8

Ross. · 18-07-2017, 06:47 PM

Cassandra has went with her heart and voted

T* · 18-07-2017, 07:09 PM

A jury member still hasn't voted. Because of this, voting has been extended to close at 9PM
This will not affect the finale time-wise however if they still haven't voted by 9PM there will be consequences

Wizard. · 18-07-2017, 07:11 PM

Perched <3

Jamie89 · 18-07-2017, 07:14 PM

I'm ready to hand over the crown

T* · 18-07-2017, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by T*

A jury member still hasn't voted. Because of this, voting has been extended to close at 9PM
This will not affect the finale time-wise however if they still haven't voted by 9PM there will be consequences

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