[Kizzy]

Youtube video

[Crimson Dynamo]

so its bad actors lying and we are supposed to do what?

[Novo]

Those damn right oppressive Tories!

Jez we can x

[lewis111]

Good video that points out the reasons why young people get so annoyed when SOME (Nkt all - some) older people say we want it so easy
We just want more help

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by lewis111

Good video that points out the reasons why young people get so annoyed when SOME (Nkt all - some) older people say we want it so easy
We just want more help

yeah but its made bollocks up by young people justifying themselves by pretending to understand people who are older

its fiction

.....

[Kizzy]

I know personally people who have said almost identical statements currently enjoying secure jobs with paid off mortgages.
There always has been an 'I'm alright jack' proportion, it's not wrong to highlight how it will be very different for those who aspire to be in that comfortable position today.

[Oliver_W]

So the video makes the stunning point that things were different several decades ago? University education then and now can't really be compared, with all the pointless courses which only serve to fill the universities' coffers. As for different house prices, it's almost as if the population has grown far too much since that lady bought her house.
I don't care about the nepotism thing, as people are free to do what they want with their money and their businesses, plus any working class business owner could hire their kids.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

So the video makes the stunning point that things were different several decades ago? University education then and now can't really be compared, with all the pointless courses which only serve to fill the universities' coffers. As for different house prices, it's almost as if the population has grown far too much since that lady bought her house.
I don't care about the nepotism thing, as people are free to do what they want with their money and their businesses, plus any working class business owner could hire their kids.

[smudgie]

The first house we bought was approx 3x yearly salary of hubby. (Interest rate up to 15%)
Same house now is less than twice my daughters yearly salary. Interest at much much lower rates)
Depends where you live I suppose, and if you are prepared to start on the lower rung.
Living in the North East does have advantages when it comes to finding a supply of solid affordable housing for first timers.

My daughters partner's father has just bought them a little flat in Brighton, tiny bathroom, tiny kitchen, cost more than our 4 bed detached up here
Ridiculous.

[MTVN]

Yep can't stand those who get jobs because of who their father is. Seb Corbyn, by contrast, obviously got his highly paid job with John McDonnell purely on merit..

[Kizzy]

The vid emphasizes the free 'useful' degrees benefits, nodding to the explosion in property prices in the south as well as the ability to raise a family and save to help your children.
None of which are ( in the main) possible now.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The vid emphasizes the free 'useful' degrees benefits, nodding to the explosion in property prices in the south as well as the ability to raise a family and save to help your children.
None of which are ( in the main) possible now.

Plenty of people in my age range (twenty-somethings) have decent jobs, mortgages, and savings. Working hard pays more than whinging about how unfair the world is.

[jaxie]

And those 'I'm all right jack' people probably struggled buying their houses through the Thatcher years with 10% interest rates. Why should anyone assume their ride was easier?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Plenty of people in my age range (twenty-somethings) have decent jobs, mortgages, and savings. Working hard pays more than whinging about how unfair the world is.

How much would yo have to earn in your mid 20's to buy a property in the south and have savings roughly?

Bearing in mind the student debt Ł50k millstone obv.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

How much would yo have to earn in your mid 20's to buy a property in the south and have savings roughly?

Bearing in mind the student debt Ł50k millstone obv.

I don't live in the south, so I wouldn't know.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I don't live in the south, so I wouldn't know.

Neither do I, yet I'm aware of the explosion in property prices and how it will impact on people living and working in the south who cannot ever hope to buy, no matter how hard they work.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yep can't stand those who get jobs because of who their father is. Seb Corbyn, by contrast, obviously got his highly paid job with John McDonnell purely on merit..

You're misunderstanding to message, it's irrelevant whether Corbyns son works with McDonnell... He'll be aware (hopefully) that alongside his own merits he will have perhaps had an advantage in his field due to his fathers connections.

It's the awareness of that privilege that's highlighted in the vid, we see the young man scoffing at those climbing the ladder whilst he himself took the escalator.

Whether or not you had a hand up isn't really the issue, it's the attitude towards others when you are looking from a lofty secure position that's the talking point.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You are misunderstanding to message, it is irrelevant whether Corbyns son works with McDonnell... He will be aware (hopefully) that alongside his own merits he will have perhaps had an advantage in his field due to his fathers connections.

It's the awareness of that privilege that is highlighted in the vid, we see the young man scoffing at those climbing the ladder whilst he himself took the escalator.

Whether or not you had a hand up isn't really the issue, its the attitude towards others when you are looking from a lofty secure position that is the talking point.

Its actors and its not real

made by people with an agenda

what bit are you missing?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by jaxie

And those 'I'm all right jack' people probably struggled buying their houses through the Thatcher years with 10% interest rates. Why should anyone assume their ride was easier?

exactly when we bought our first flat interest rates were 15 per cent and we had a lodger and no central heating and sticks of furniture, and no holidays for a few years, do people want to forego anything to get on the ladder now, nope.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its actors and its not real

made by people with an agenda

what bit are you missing?

It's a talking head, social commentary, what bit of the conversation it has encouraged are you against?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Neither do I, yet I'm aware of the explosion in property prices and how it will impact on people living and working in the south who cannot ever hope to buy, no matter how hard they work.

Move out a little bit and properties are much more affordable, there is part ownership, help to buy, it may not be like it used to be but it is still possible, you just need to adjust your mindset accordingly

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

exactly when we bought our first flat interest rates were 15 per cent and we had a lodger and no central heating and sticks of furniture, and no holidays for a few years, do people want to forego anything to get on the ladder now, nope.

You sublet, was that very easy to do then with no heating in the flat :/
No holidays prior to getting the flat, but you were able to work, pay rent and feed yourselves and save a deposit presumably. My query is in the south now is that even a viable option?
Was this a flat in London Cherie, if it was how much is that flat worth now out of interest?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Move out a little bit and properties are much more affordable, there is part ownership, help to buy, it may not be like it used to be but it is still possible, you just need to adjust your mindset accordingly

Adjust your mindset, you mean imagine social cleansing isn't happening?

Now the suggestion is not work hard and save it's don't bother and move away?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You sublet, was that very easy to do then with no heating in the flat :/
No holidays prior to getting the flat, but you were able to work, pay rent and feed yourselves and save a deposit presumably. My query is in the south now is that even a viable option?
Was this a flat in London Cherie, if it was how much is that flat worth now out of interest?

yes it is still a viable option under shared ownership, help to buy, or builders pay deposit on the property, we had electric heaters in the bedrooms, the plug in ones and an old fashioned gas fire in the living room the lodger was a friend so the rent was cheap but helped with the bills. the flat is worth 380,000 last time I looked.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's a talking head, social commentary, what bit of the conversation it has encouraged are you against?

all its done is triggered people like you

everyone else isnt bothered

sorry