[Underscore]

But you could then argue any sane person would vote for Macron when up against a raging racist looney.

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Adam.

France want out because of the open door policy that has killed hundreds of their citizens and Belgium want the same because of the open doors policy

Source again

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Underscore

Well if you were such a Eurosceptic you'd vote for Marine Le Pen wouldn't you?

Emmanuel Marcon is a neoliberal, he is literally the EU personified.

She was very bad for the country and they knew that,

The public can force Frexit

The UK did

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Adam.

She was very bad for the country and they knew that,

The public can force Frexit

The UK did

David Cameron selfishly called the referendum because of divisions in his own party. We wouldn't be even thinking about Brexit if it wasn't for that.

And you're thinking French people want Brexit, there's no proof they do.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Underscore

David Cameron selfishly called the referendum because of divisions in his own party. We wouldn't be even thinking about Brexit if it wasn't for that.

And you're thinking French people want Brexit, there's no proof they do.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/04/majo...ndum-citi.html

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Adam.

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/04/04/majo...ndum-citi.html

Checkmate

"Fifty-four percent favor holding a referendum on EU membership. However, 72 percent are opposed to exiting the euro to return to the franc,"

[Denver]

You can keep the Euro without being a member

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Adam.

You can keep the Euro without being a member

But if you wanted to leave the EU, I'd imagine you'd want to leave the Euro too. One of the main driving force behind the referendum was so that we didn't have to accept the Euro (even though we were NEVER forced and were a special member in that case)

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Underscore

But if you wanted to leave the EU, I'd imagine you'd want to leave the Euro too. One of the main driving force behind the referendum was so that we didn't have to accept the Euro (even though we were NEVER forced and were a special member in that case)

The public and the Queen would never agree to it

[Denver]

Why get rid of the strongest currency in the world?

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Adam.

The public and the Queen would never agree to it

That's not what I was getting to.

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Adam.

Why get rid of the strongest currency in the world?

I never said get rid of it.

[Denver]

They can not force a country to use the Euro currently 7 countries in the EU dont use it and 4 out of it use it

[Underscore]

I was getting at that if you wanted to leave the EU you'd surely want to leave the Euro too.

But most people in France wanted to keep the Euro, so I'd imagine they'd want to stay in the EU too.

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Adam.

They can not force a country to use the Euro currently 7 countries in the EU dont use it and 4 out of it use it

Yes I know,

but it's changed so if you're a new member you have to accept the Euro.

It's well spoken about if Scots leave the UK and join the EU they'd have to adopt the Euro.

[Denver]

You need a 2 year financial period 1st which is the reason Bulgaria dont use it and Scotland wont have a currency

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

If as many people still want to leave now as did a year ago then why would the result come out any different?

Or like Ireland we'll just keep voting til certain people get the vote they wanted

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

We were told back in 2016 there would be a referendum, not a second to ensure the remainers got the result they wanted. Maybe the leavers can demand a third democratic vote if they don't get the result they want.

It isn't democratic to overturn a public vote to get the vote you want. And that is what is happening here. It's you and some other remainers who only respect democracy when it goes their way. That has been demonstrated by the constant whinging from the remainers for the last year and constant demands to redo the vote.

Like Vicky said, before the result was revealed Leavers were already demanding another vote because they thought they lost.

Get this silly idea of 'overturning' the vote out of your head, if there was another referendum and the public democratically voted to remain then that's the democratic decision of the people, just like how it would be democracy if they voted to leave again. Honestly do you believe that, if people voted for a different party from the one currently in power during an election then they've undemocratically 'overturned' the previous election? No because that's silly, the people are always allowed to change their minds, that's the ****ing point of a referendum!

All votes are democratic whether you like them or not and NO vote has ever been final, we have left the EU before and have decided to rejoin afterwards remember. If referendums were as permanent as you make them out to be then the very act of voting to leave in the 2016 Referendum would have been considered undemocratic by your standards since we had our referendum on the issue in 1975 and chose to remain.

As for your last paragraph, have you not been reading the thread? Did you purposefully choose to ignore the two posts in which I've said I want a hard brexit at this point? Also, can you stop speaking of democracy until you actually understand what Democracy is? Because you sure as hell haven't displayed any understanding in this thread or any thread when you bring up the same argument in an attempt to silence anyone who has an opinion you don't like.

[Brillopad]

http://www.cityam.com/271679/juncker...real-state-eu-

Anyone Who trusts this man is easily fooled. I wouldn't trust him further than I could sling him.

[Withano]

"Ok Google, search the web for the European Union is very very bad"
*copies link, opens tibb, pastes link*

[Underscore]

Originally Posted by Withano

"Ok Google, search the web for the European Union is very very bad"
*copies link, opens tibb, pastes link*

This.

But, welcome to off season on thisisbigbrother.com

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Underscore

This.

But, welcome to off season on thisisbigbrother.com

Thankfully we don't all believe the EU to be so very, very good!

[Tom4784]

The Referendum happened last year, Brillo.

[user104658]

You won't Believe What He Really Thinks!

[Oliver_W]

The EU is a mess, but the referendum has happened and the wheels are turning. A thread like this is no more constructive than one about its good points tbh.