[Greg!]

****ing love the costume omg!

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Got to be honest here... Considering they're going for the "OMG first female doctor" thing... Is she not a bit androgenous?

Then again, all of the new era doctors bar Eccleston have been fairly gender neutral in terms of personality so maybe that's what they're going for, the idea that Time Lords are basically neither.

Well I never thought they'd want to accentuate any stereotypical female features. Not just the ideas for the pink tardis or a sonic lipstick that everyone was joking about but rather to illustrate the doctor can switch genders but still essentially be the same person.

The character has always been fairly androgynous really and not strictly masculine or feminine.

We'll most likely see the differences in personality, which is just like every other Doctor really.

[Marsh.]

I'm glad they've darkened the colour of the Tardis again and made it a bit grungy. It was a bit too shiny and new in Matt's era.

[Scarlett.]

I like the new look TARDIS too, seems they've also changed the sign from white to black, and got rid of the little circle logo thingy on the other door. Kinda looks like the 3rd Docs



I don't mind the Doctor's new look, doesn't look any more silly than any of the other Doctor's clothes.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by MB.

I love it and Dezzy has no taste

This. She looks amazing omg

[Marsh.]

Not a fan of the three quarter trousers look.

[Sticks]

It is still ruined for some who still hold the Doctor must be a man.

One female I know says she will no longer watch it because of that.

[MB.]

Well I'm sure Chris Chibnall's had sleepless nights knowing that the one female Sticks knows won't be watching

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Sticks

It is still ruined for some who still hold the Doctor must be a man.

One female I know says she will no longer watch it because of that.

Good for them.

No different to those who stopped watching because the actor cast wasn't hot or wasn't under 50.

The show will go on.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Sticks

It is still ruined for some who still hold the Doctor must be a man.

One female I know says she will no longer watch it because of that.

It's a really stupid reason to stop watching.

[Ashley.]

I'm intrigued, more than anything... Hopefully it'll spark the interest in the show that was lost when Capaldi took over x

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I'm intrigued, more than anything... Hopefully it'll spark the interest in the show that was lost when Capaldi took over x

That's a funny way of spelling Moffat.

[Ashley.]

He wasn't that bad a producer at the beginning. Series 5, the first half of Series 6 and second half of Series 7 were good!

[Rob!]

5 and 6 were good. For me, 7 was the worst series out the lot, including the 50th which I have to say I thought was extremely overrated.

[Greg!]

5 and 10 were Moffat's only half-decent series. Just facts!

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Ashley.

I'm intrigued, more than anything... Hopefully it'll spark the interest in the show that was lost when Capaldi took over x

I always suspected this was you

Youtube video

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by MB.

I love it and Dezzy has no taste

She looks like she raided the wardrobe of one of the skinheads from This is England.

[Glenn.]

It’s very Doctor’y. I like it and I can’t wait for the new series.

[Sticks]

Originally Posted by Rob!

It's a really stupid reason to stop watching.

I will try and get to see it out of morbid curiosity, like watching a train wreck, but that view is out there and it is not just guys being sexist, so you can not write them off.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Sticks

I will try and get to see it out of morbid curiosity, like watching a train wreck, but that view is out there and it is not just guys being sexist, so you can not write them off.

It’s still a pathetic reason though.

[Rob!]

Originally Posted by Sticks

I will try and get to see it out of morbid curiosity, like watching a train wreck, but that view is out there and it is not just guys being sexist, so you can not write them off.

How is it a train wreck though? You're not making any sense? It's a train wreck because they've cast a woman in the role? You clearly believe that yourself, so I don't know why you're covering it with "the view is out there" like something out of the X-Files.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Rob!

How is it a train wreck though? You're not making any sense? It's a train wreck because they've cast a woman in the role? You clearly believe that yourself, so I don't know why you're covering it with "the view is out there" like something out of the X-Files.

"The View Is Out There"

"I Want To Believe (in misogyny)"


I mean maybe it will seem forced and awful, or maybe it'll be a breath of fresh air... I'm not sure how anyone can claim to know until we've actually seen it!

Plus, I've said before, I was convinced that I'd hate both Matt Smith and then Capaldi and I like both in the role in their own ways. Smith is still my fav doctor, though that seems to be an unpopular opinion .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Sticks

I will try and get to see it out of morbid curiosity, like watching a train wreck, but that view is out there and it is not just guys being sexist, so you can not write them off.

It is sexism though when they fail to explain how it's a train wreck. As we have seen nothing about how the show will actually unfold under the new producer or with the new actor in the role, the only reason they have to think it's a train wreck is because the new actor is female.

[Sticks]

I said like watching a train wreck, not that it was a train wreck.

There is a difference.

There have been a number commentators out there who disagree with the casting decision, like my female friend who say it won't work and it is ruined. Those commentators have explicitly stated they will not watch it.

Like watching a train wreck is an expression referring to something utterly ghastly but you can not help watching.

I at least will give it a chance, is what I meant.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Sticks

I said like watching a train wreck, not that it was a train wreck.

There is a difference.

There have been a number commentators out there who disagree with the casting decision, like my female friend who say it won't work and it is ruined. Those commentators have explicitly stated they will not watch it.

Like watching a train wreck is an expression referring to something utterly ghastly but you can not help watching.

I at least will give it a chance, is what I meant.

That's a bad analogy then; you could say it's more like watching a plane coming in for a really rough landing. You're pretty sure it's going to burst into flames when it hits the runway, but you accept that MAYBE the pilot will nail the landing and the plane will be OK.

Also, having a female friend who says it's ruined doesn't mean that the sentiment isn't misogynistic... Women can misogynistic too, oddly enough.

That said I don't think it is always from a place of misogyny... Different people have different interpretations of the character and there's no "right to wrong" answer there. It's fiction and everyone views a narrative differently... So for some people, the doctor being a man may well be part of their concept of his identity. That isn't "incorrect", but nor is the argument that Time Lords are biologically fluid.

And of course... None of the above can be used as "evidence" that the upcoming show will be awful OR great. No one will really know what they think of it until we see it in action.