[Macie Lightfoot]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Thanks for the summation, I did think it probably had something to do with Vanessa but even then that's no excuse for walking out of rooms and isolating her...I don't get what's so offensive about her that they feel like that's acceptable

yeah it pretty much entirely has to do with Vanessa even though Michelle, arguably the biggest anti-Tiffany loudmouth, admittedly didn't even watch BB17 because she got bored and just rewatched BB14.

Paulie's hate boner has to do with his weird sibling complex where he NEEDS to be the sibling who lasts longer, his complete misinterpretation of Vanessa's game (his descriptors of Vanessa's game -- laying low, not winning anything, faking emotion to manipulate others, bouncing around the house, backstabbing all of her allies -- actually describe Andy's game, not hers), and the fact that Derrick HATES Vanessa and told Paulie that he needs to take Tiffany out ASAP since the siblings were rumored long before cast reveal. So basically we have Derrick to blame for helping ruin another season of BB.

Originally Posted by Jack_

I never got the Nicole love tbh, she's always been a whiny bore that has a unfettered devotion to men. Somehow she's even worse this season and any semblance of endearment she may have had is gone

BB16 was rough, I was desperate for literally any opposition to the Bomb Squad.