[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I don't think anyone pretends Churchill was perfect. Talking about the hand he played in the Allies victory in WWII doesn't really need to include how much of a racist he was, especially as his views reflected the "consensus" at the time - I'm not saying it's okay because everyone else though it, just that there's no need to point it out.

But that's exactly what I'm saying, you don't think it's important to point it out but it's a part of who Churchill was. You're basically saying you want to wash out the bad stuff because of his role in WW2 and that's wrong. You can't close your eyes to an ugly truth about a person or a time, you've got to accept it all.

Chuchill wasn't a mythical hero, he was a real person with real views that achieved great things but he wasn't a morally great man. It's best to keep your eyes open when it comes to history, accept the good with the bad. History is an ugly thing but we don't do ourselves any favours by trying to make out it's prettier than it actually is.