[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I don't think anyone thinks every member is anti-Semitic. This reply is a bit...'not all men' when people talk about the men who do rape and behave atrociously towards women. Wails of 'not all X are like that!' are both pointless and annoying. Pointless as, when discussing the bad people, the bad people are being discussed. The subject does not need to change into 'most X are nice'..annoying because its constant.

Its a fairly widespread problem within the party it seems. But, when people talk about it that does not mean they think all labour members are bigoted, that would be insane!

Also I do think, people expect a bit much of Labour sometimes. Like, I don't really get what can be done about random members being antisemitic, besides chucking them out when their views are noted. They cannot control the behaviour of members beyond that. But I do think Corbyn could do much much more.

That’s the thing though, it’s not widespread, 0.08% of members have been accused of antisemitism, that’s still too many, but the notion that it’s a massive pandemic sweeping the party has been misrepresented, I presume purposefully.

So yes, I do believe that the entire party and it’s members are being accused when the press and people in general label Labour as ‘the party of anti-semites’

Whataboutery tbh. I usually agree with your posts, or at least I find them to be fair on the whole. Here though..I despite whataboutery tbh, and don't really see the point in it when dicussing a program that delves into a known problem in the Labour party. Of course other parties have their own issues..but if there WAS a thread about a program into Islamophobia in the Tory party, the 'what about Labour having a problem with antisemitism' would be derided, as whataboutery tbh.

It might be whataboutery, but to me, it’s deseved whataboutery, racism on all levels should be investigated obviously and it should be stamped out, but by the BBC refusing to investigate it in every party, it points out a clear political bias imo and that’s all my point was, it wasn’t deflection or denial