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Originally Posted by Dezzy

Ah, so any negative opinion of an abuser is misogynistic trolling because she just so happens to be a woman?

I'm sure unintentional but this sounds so MRA .

In seriousness though (opinion piece coming up), the Depp/Heard situation is clearly extremely complex, evidence of violence all round, mixed up in substance abuse and mental health issues. They both clearly have massive personal issues and their relationship was beyond toxic. I think that part of that for Heard is that the toxic relationship sparked joy for her, she probably associates the aggression, violence and craziness with an "intense" or "passionate" relationship as part of her own personal demons (not uncommon) whereas frankly Depp is getting on a bit and was probably getting very tired of it and wanted it all to stop. That's what I hear in the tapes. It doesn't mean he wasn't an active participant before that point of having had enough. Also, the fact that his previous relationships weren't violent really means zip - they were different relationships.

In short I think they were both violent and Depps probably wasn't "just" retaliatory/in self defense, Heard has done a lot of lying and manipulating on top but it's all wrapped up in the same thing.

Based purely on the tapes that were released you could even say that Heard was the worse of the two, certainly in terms of being emotionally manipulative, but then that assumes they tell the whole story.

But as I said to Truth/Brillo/Whoever that multi is, this "Depp pure and innocent, Heard demon" narrative just isn't the real world, it's film/telly territory and completely unrealistic.