[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

And in the real world, violent hate crimes against trans people have skyrocketed over the past couple of years, not just mean words on Twitter, actual physical violence purely because of who they are, people like you seem to not acknowledge the serious knock on effect the rise of the anti-trans movement has had on real life trans people just trying to live their lives.

And the idiot with the prosthetic turned out to have nothing to do with being trans, he was a disgruntled man making a point about the different standards between discipline for men and women, but shock horror, the anti-trans folk jumped on it without a care in the world and used it for their own agenda.

Where have you gotten your figures for these hate crimes against trans people? I haven't seen a single article or read a single news story about that.

As for your second point, that actually proves what most of us "terfs" have been saying all along, people will take this loophole and exploit it, I mean that's literally what we've been saying all along. I don't for a second believe for example that these men who have identified as women to get into female prisons and sexually assault women are genuine transwomen, they're men who saw this lovely loophole and exploited it to get easy access to vulnerable women.