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Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Punishing them by not mandating access to an unfair advantage in competitive sports? Again, all they're saying is it has to be left to the professional bodies who are responsible for upholding fair competition in these sports.

For example, they DID allow it in swimming, until the work was done and they concluded that there was a clear, distinct advantage for biologically male trans women over natal females in swimming competitions. They did the research. They discovered that it's an unfair competitive advantage. No number of dining table scientists with zero qualifications talking speculative rot about the effect of hormone therapy and chanting "no it isn't, transphobe!!" is going to change the simple facts.

Research is transphobic In all seriousness though it's ludicrous they even had to let it go to that and to actually punish all those female swimmers who had to swim against Lia Thomas for as long as they did in the meantime, anyone with eyes could have told you that Lia had biological advantages brought on by male puberty over the female athletes

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

It's not even that I'm going to deny they exist, there are plenty of bigots gleefully piggybacking on the issue, we all know who they are, but at the end of the day that's largely irrelevant background noise when considering the actual issue. Public opinion one way or the other doesn't come into any of this. Safety, safeguarding and professional competitive standards are the ONLY considerations that people in charge should be concerning themselves with.

Of course as there is on every topic. What bothers me about the bigot chants on this particular topic though is it's quite clearly a strong women's rights issue here and it's the women who are being punished and who are being told shut up and move over if they dare try to speak up for themselves. Like I said above, it's a disgrace that had even gotten to the place it had.