[Shasown]

Originally Posted by Zippy

I don't trust the judgement of social workers one iota. Theyre gullible suckers who wanna see good in everybody.

I was in big trouble at 13 and had social workers around me too. My God were they easy to hoodwink! I remember laughing at how soft and gullible they were. Falling over themselves to believe I was really a good boy.

Regardless of rehabilitation, what about a decent punishment? Is that not part of justice? Whatever they have become the fact is they do not deserve to have their entire adult life in freedom. They took that childs life away entirely. They do not deserve freedom for a very long time.

With you 100% there, both about the social workers and punishment.

See when the case about their original recommendations went to Europe the Ministry of Justice got hammered by the European court for extending their sentence recommendations, claiming it was unfair to the children etc etc judiciary looking to punish and not rehabilitate blah blah blah, so when their applications for release under licence came up the MoJ had no real excuse to keep them in secure accomodation. The reports put in by various officials recommended release. So they were released under licence.