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Originally Posted by MTVN

Well the majority of MP's supported the Iraq War, David at least voted for an investigation into the war, unlike Ed who was strongly against it according to his voting record . He also supported Labours terrorism laws as well.

Of course David voted for an investigation into the war. This was Labour MPs' opportunity to distance themselves from the old Blairite faction of Geoff Hoon, Harriet Harman and others following their pathetic attempted coup. This was the very reason Brown's cabinet set the inquiry up. To hold on to what little power he had left.

Originally Posted by MTVN

Ed will not be a credible oppostion leader imo, he'll lurch the party to the left, which will probably lead to most centrist voters (which I'd imagine most of the country are) losing faith in the party, and he doesnt seem to want to acknowledge the necessity of spending cuts and a strong private sector unlike his brother.

The Labour party haven't been remotely centrist since they were elected in the 1990's. They have actually been a very right-wing party for the better part of 15 years. Carrying the baton as it were, for the Conservative party. This was the only option Labour were faced with in order to get the national press of their case and make themselves 'electable'.

It has to stop. What is the point in having an opposition party if they follow the exact same ideology as the ones in power? As NuLabour demonstrated, and the Tories before them, there is no such thing as a self-regulating market, so it is stupid to have three political parties all that need to pretend there is. One need only turn their attention to the failure of Britain's market economy in how hard it has been hit by the recession and the way the private sector has infiltrated public services such as the NHS to their detriment, with useless costly schemes such as the Private Finance Initiatives, which have multiplied the billions spent on the NHS in interest charges alone. In addition to that, note the faulure of the public transport under the control of the private sector. An appallingly poor service for an extortionate price with companies that eventually had to be bailed out by the government, further adding to the cost and inefficiency. This was while Network Rail caused a scandal handing out six figure bonuses to their executives.

Originally Posted by MTVN

David would have been a more mature and respectable opposition leader/possible Prime Minister if you ask me.

He would have had no redeeming qualities as a leader and would certainly have given me no reason whatsoever to vote for Labour again. He had a hand in the expenses scandal, which means he is apart of the problem. We would only have gotten more of the same. Is that really what you want?