[Stu]

Originally Posted by Sticks

And what of justice for those whose lives are destroyed by drugs and drug related crimes?

A line must be drawn in the sand!

And what of it? Are you not yourself capable of imagining such middle grounds yourself that you need to beg the question?

People should be allowed do what they want, when they want with their own bodies and minds so long as they don't harm anyone else. If they do harm anyone else then bring the justice.

You can't hold a bag of powder responsible for someone mugging another person. We've waged a war on that bag and have tried to put it in the courts and prisons for decades now and it's not working.

In fact the illegal environment created and sustained by this total exercise in futility has resulted and facilitating numerous dangers and hazards that could be minimized or side stepped entirely by a more rational approach.

So you go about your justice swiftly and fairly. But you leave the drugs out of it. People are the problem.

Originally Posted by Livia

She's fifty six. I wouldn't call that "elderly". She's a year older than Madonna and she's out there travelling the world, she's not some frail old grandmother even though the media keep pressing the word "grandmother on to us. She could be a grandmother at 35... or younger... And although I'm not arguing that the death penalty is harsh, I know that is the consequence of getting caught smuggling drugs in Indonesia. Is there anyone on here who has ever been to that part of the world and isn't fully aware of their laws on drug smuggling? She must have known it... they make it very clear.

I accept this point.