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Originally Posted by jegmeister

I hadn't seen any of so-called "cucumbergate" and so was interested to see what happened.

From listening to some people on this Forum, I was expecting a drunken, shouting Charlie to be haranguing Hazel and to have clearly used the Daley situation as a way of showing up Hazel.

But what did we see? A slightly but not really that drunk Charlie make a stupid comment about Daley that she quickly retracted but which Hazel (being the clever and nasty piece of work she is) would not let go. Charlie kept saying she was sorry and retracting it, Hazel kept going on and on and on about it.

Then we hear from Hazel that she did not use the word aggressive when we clearly all heard she did - as Callum correctly confirmed. Now this may seem a storm in a teacup and in fact that is what it should have been.

Instead, Hazel had manipulated a situation to make it about something it wasn't - Daley. If Hazel had not commented at all on that Charlie tongue slip, there would have been no argument, no drama, in fact it would probably not have made the highlights and been forgotten. But by making such an issue of it, Hazel has cleverly turned it into something else - an issue of trust about Charlie, yet again throwing the spotlight away from the elephant in the room. The fact that she has still not properly told the remaining HMs what actually happened with Daley.

One thing is clear - we saw it with Dexter and the vanilla comment and with Callum when he queried her behaviour with Daley. Hazel does not like even the slightest hint of criticism of her behaviour and will become very passive aggressive, staring in a initimidating way at her target.

She is a nasty nasty woman.You have to be quite nasty in dealing with her when she adopts this attitude - give her a few stares back and repeating again and again that she is wrong.

And unfortunately it looks as if the Twitter/Facebook crowd have fallen for her victim approach over this incident when she is in my opinion far from it. Very disappointing.

I totally agree with you on this... it was a drunken accident but Hazel said in the diary room 'I dont THINK it was intentional'....why would she think Charlie would intentionally stick a cucumber in her eye??? Charlie was frustrated that Hazel and Callum called her aggressive....which they both denied initailly BUT they both clearly said it....that was the point she was trying to cover. Hazel made a meal out of it knowing full well it was an accident....which is why Charlie made the Daley comment thinking her wrongful accusations of her being aggressive could well have been similar with what happened with Daley which resulted in his exclusion....remember none of the housemates other than Dan knew the full extent of what happened in the Safehouse that night and have been left to come to their own conclusions without knowing the enormity of it...
Hazel called her 'friend' aggressive and made a deal about it.... Hazel has never divulged details of what happened to her with Daley to Charlie...so Hazel should not jump down Charlies throat at the mention of Daley in the full knowledge that she doesnt know the full story.