Wasn't RVP complaining of being over trained, and generally unhappy with the new training regime in pre-season? Which in turn then breaks his body down for most of this season. Not sure why Moyes gets a pass on that tbh.

The best way to judge, is by asking whether you honestly believe that Jose would have them struggling down in 7th, if he'd been given the job instead of "the chosen one".

I hope they win the league cup this year. Don't want those Glazers getting twitchy, and a nice trophy on display for his first year should guarantee at least another 1, and hopefully another 2 years. Moyes has the feel of Hodgson about him, especially with some of his comments, for example: "we got near the Swansea area on quite a few occasions", and wanting to go and celebrate after beating Wigan in the CS are classics.

He may go on to become the worlds greatest ever manager - but there is absolutely nothing in his past or present to suggest he might, and how he replaces the ageing players will define your next 10-20 years. It's much harder to play catchup when players think you're a busted flush.