[nodisharmony]

Originally posted by Ruth

Well I don't think anybody would disagree with you about it being a bad judgement call. But people do make bad judgement calls all the time.

NO - it's better to look at the footage available, rather than just make up a scenario that suits what you think.

How do you know this?

As you said yourself on another thread - only Danielle, Jo and Jade know what they are thinking. So you have no basis for your statement.

Well yes. Which would suggest that they had something to be upset about.

In your opinion. But plenty of people think that she went easy on Jade.

Davina does what she is told. And if you watch Jade's interview and Jo's interview, you can see that she quite clearly did treat them very differently.

Don't get me wrong - I thought the way Pete behaved towards Traci was awful. But as you say, there was no question of racism - he didn't make any racist remarks - so the issue wasn't raised. But the girls in this years CBB did make racist remarks.

Q&A Ruth vs nodisharmony

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*quote*Well I don't think anybody would disagree with you about it being a bad judgement call. But people do make bad judgement calls all the time.*quote*

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answer:- I know this and when mistakes get made, it can take time for people who can see silly slip-up's like this on CBB Jan. and get to realise this and forgive and forget.

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*quote*NO - it's better to look at the footage available, rather than just make up a scenario that suits what you think.*quote*

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answer:- I have looked very much at the footage that was shown Ruth. It is not so easy to be so sure.

We can only assume that this disagreement came about, by what we actually saw.

Being patronised by someone can be very annoying.

Have I been patronising?

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*quote*How do you know this?*quote*

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answer:- The first thing you need to understand is "motive"

Why would any of these three girls ever be racist people.

We have had a very good look at each of them and over the time, we have learnt quite a bit about each and every one of them.

Jo O'Meara pointed out very clearly that she has friends and more that are of different skin colour and race and it made no difference to her that Shilpa was an Indian woman, when the arguments and offensive remarks came out.

Jade Goody is also very much the same and has met many people in her life, who are very much ethnic, etc..

Danielle Lloyd knows full well that her boyfriend Teddy Sheringham is mixing with all types and she wouldn't want to cause trouble naturally.

Whether Danielle has met and intergrated with people of all types in her life, naturally.

First Ruth, find the motive which makes them fit into the "racists" category which you choose to place them in.

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*quote*As you said yourself on another thread - only Danielle, Jo and Jade know what they are thinking. So you have no basis for your statement.*quote*

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answer:- I know they only know what they are thinking! That is the way it is for everyone.

But how does the CID department in a police station come to their conclusions, if they thought like that.

Getting into someones mind is impossible.

How many liars are out there?

Jade, Jo & Danielle have their own minds and we have some evidence and Endemol have it all.

Like you said Ruth, the CPS couldn't make a case out of this. They only had the shown footage.

A police officer or a detective can get a warrant to search a premisis or even confiscate evidence or possible evidence.

So, you say that this CBB Jan. incident is not that serious?

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*quote*Well yes. Which would suggest that they had something to be upset about.*quote*

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answer:- Footballers got upset with Teddy over Danielle, as the shown footage appeared very bad and Teddy's involvement with Danielle is obviously going to upset some.

This is understandable

Oh Yes! Teddy took her back quick enough!

So maybe it was Danielle's looks that clouded his views?

Or, he told his mates and football friends, that he was going to pay her back by cheating on her and in the meantime, using her as a sex-object??

These are only speculations of course Ruth?

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*quote*In your opinion. But plenty of people think that she went easy on Jade.*quote*

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answer:- Davina McCall has never had to deal with this kind of situation before in Big Brother.

Are you saying that she is an expert at being strict with a housemate?

She might like Jade Goody?

They do actually talk, you know!

Big Brother and Reality shows don't rule any of these housemates world's you know.

Davina McCall does a great job with Big Brother & CBB and I am sick of people saying that she is a corrupt presenter or a puppet who will do anything that she is told to do.

Davina is quite wealthy and quite in demand as a presenter.

If you didn't like her treatment of Jade Goody and you thought she got a good deal, then did you see the Dermot interview?

He wasn't over-harsh either!

Fiona Phillips wasn't so harsh with Jo O'Meara either.

Maybe they saw the unfairity of it all too and the badly edited show, which made it appear much worse.

LISTEN to Davina and try to understand what she says in that article before jumping to conclusions.

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*quote*Davina does what she is told. And if you watch Jade's interview and Jo's interview, you can see that she quite clearly did treat them very differently*quote*

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answer:- I have answered most of that above, however, talking of her harshness of Jo O'Meara.

Perhaps Davina didn't like Jo O'Meara picking on Dirk Benedict, straight after Jade left the house?

Oh yes, they all started on Dirk after Jo left. ALL Ruth, ALL..

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*quote*Don't get me wrong - I thought the way Pete behaved towards Traci was awful. But as you say, there was no question of racism - he didn't make any racist remarks - so the issue wasn't raised.*quote*

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answer:- Exactly Ruth, Exactly. No race was ever raised!

So, that means it is not serious to bully, but to say words or comments which may appear to some as having "racial-over-tones" is a million times worse?

What cobblers.

There is serious injustice here and also, unfairity beyond belief.

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*quote*But the girls in this years CBB did make racist remarks*quote*

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answer:- No, offensive words and comments

as above..ditto

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nodisharmony