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Originally Posted by joeysteele

Also the loss of Scottish votes would admittedly hit Labour the hardest but not as bad as people think,even on the current opinion polls if they were to happen in an election, without Scotland Labour would still have an overall majority.

True, but I personally suspect that's just an accurate representation of just how much the Tories have managed to **** people off this term :lol:. Combined with a very weak and unconvincing leader... they've really given themselves a mauling.

They got in last time by tricking lower-middle and even some working class people into believing their lies and rhetoric. Before that election, I was working with a girl who had two young kids, working but definitely relying on Tax Credits, etc... and she had totally had her head turned towards the Tories and their promises. She voted for them. And then of course, many of their policies directly impacted on her, and she felt utterly duped. Not to mention Tory austerity measures absolutely destroying the north-of-England town she lives in (thankfully, I don't live there myself any more)... the place is in ruins. The Tories managed to swindle their way to a LOT of these sorts of votes last time. People voting for them and then being the worst affected by the things that they've done. It's shameful really, but then, they wre idiots to believe their propaganda in the first place.

Those people will vote against them in force next time. I'd like to think at every election ever after, too... but people are generally stupid and have very short memories, so the Tories will probably be back within a few terms, people sucked in by their bollocks promises all over again.