[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by jet

If you read my previous posts you would know I have already said Helen is not a lesser HM because she got the free pass and it would be the same no matter who got it. I have never said it is her fault, NEVER.

But you said yes, and have agreed that Ashleigh is the top original HM left of those who could be nominated, and as that was the subject of the thread, I don't know why it took so long to get there.

No,no no I didn't jet,please don't twist my words, I did not say and would never say that Ashleigh is the 'top' female housemate

I said yes 'only' to the fact she is the only original female housemate that can be nominated not that she is the 'top' female housemate,to me that does not make her a 'top' female housemate at all.
The word itself signifies someone stronger or better as to status as a housemate and that is definitely not the case for me, just as Helen is not a stronger or better housemate than Ashleigh either as to status as a housemate.

It is the word 'top' I take issue with since that indicates she is above another housemate as to status and she is not,in my opinion.

She can of course be your 'top' personal female housemate because you like her from your personal preference but it doesn't make her a more important or more legitimate housemate as to status at all in my view.

Your opening post says Helen doesn't count, therefore you totally downgrade her housemate status in the opening post.