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Originally Posted by joeysteele

She hasn't come out on top,that is the point,she can just be nominated and by the BB rules Helen cannot be, that doesn't make Ashleigh a more relevant housemate then Helen or vice versa even.

You do, being fair, indicate Helen 'is' a lesser housemate.
There are only 2 original female housemates left and you state in the opening post ''Helen doesn't count'', your own words.

To me they both count in equally different ways as equal housemates under the BB rules and scenario in place.
Neither above the other at all.

You can say she hasn't come out on top of all the female HM's who could be nominated until you are blue in the face, but you would still be wrong, because she has.

I did NOT say Helen was a lesser HM because she was given the pass or it was her fault, just as it would not be any other HM's fault.
I did say Helen doesn't count, not because she was given the pass, but because of her personality as she would be out on her bullying, nasty gob long ago. You know that as well as I do.