[Achilles]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Not in the slightest she was being HONEST

Good old "honest" bitching to someone who you have bitched about behind their back and are being 2 faced with about how someone else has been bitching behind your back and is 2 faced before admitting you yourself have been 2 faced with the person who are accusing of being 2 faced.
In Helen's mind that's called being "honest".
I think what happened is that Helen had one too many rough customers back in the day and her head took too many hits against the wall during those romantic and erotic nights of love and passion