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Originally Posted by Tinselbells

Well I do know as soon as something happens here these airstrikes will get blamed in the "See I told you" mould, NO we will get attacked anyway it was a given,the UK has thwarted many plots already,I am so pleased we have good security forces protecting us,IF Isis get their way,no one will be protecting us we will be target practice, and for those saying war accomplishes nothing,I don't think our old soldiers would agree with you there,we are using at least one thing it achieved free speech, but if we are not careful Isis will take that away too !!

This is the thing though Kazanne I can see both sides to this,what you and AnnieK outline makes perfect reasoned sense however so does what Dezzy and the others,like Shaun have said too.
No one has the monopoly on the best thing to do or what will sort it out for good without the full and involved help of 'all' the Nations in the Middle East,with all that support and cooperation first, then success may be more assured, without all that there will be havens for IS to flee to and re-group no matter how many bombs are dropped and no matter the cost.

We all want to be safe in the UK,I want all people in all Nations to be safe, I am not just selfishly looking at the UK,I do not believe all this bombing will do that,it is likely in reality to only scatter IS more across the region and into other Countries even probably.

I said earlier, for a fair while now the USA has been bombing so called IS in Syria, as have for a while now the Russians too,then the French have joined in yet things escalate,I do not see what difference we are going to really make or that will change that much without the full help and d determined resolve by the Arab Nations in the area, to ensure all aid to IS, no matter what it is, is cut off and that they then too seek them out, and do the ground work effectively.
If that does not come about then little will change and we could be there for even longer than we were in Iraq.
Going nowhere while unfortunately fuelling more hatred against us and the West particularly.

All points are valid but the one thing no one can claim is this bombing will make us in the UK safer or that not bombing will do so either.
I'd have supported the bombing on Wednesday in the debate,had I been voting, today I would have regretted doing that.
Tomorrow I may be back in favour.

That is the dilemma but I really believe nothing can work without a determined effort to clear the lot of them away by rooting them out.
Which should be done, and should have already been done, by the Arab Nations we are in effect allowing to just sit on their backsides paying lip service to the issue, rather than doing anything.
At no costs to themselves either while we and other European nations along with the USA use loads of resources to try to sort the problem of IS.

No view is totally wrong and no view is totally right,no one would disagree IS should be wiped off the face of the earth but frankly I cannot see that coming about at all as to what we are doing now and very few so called experts believe bombing alone will achieve much more that it has already.