[Vicky.]

These people really have no shame.

I don't think its fair to call a 12 year old child a murdering bastard tbh. He has clearly been hugely abused to end up that way. He might possibly have a chance of rehabilitation, depending quite how badly they ****ed his head up. Needs supervision for life though I would say as he would be a ticking timebomb.

If it wasn't for the child, I would say leave her there to be killed...and hope her death is as slow and painful as possible tbh, though that may just be my twisted thinking. But this child needs some consideration here.