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Old 07-01-2018, 11:51 AM #11
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She didn't put herself across well at all but that could very easily have been a disaster area for Ginuwine.

Whilst she made it about herself and everyone seemed to think she was just upset because he wouldn't go for her, she did have a point to be fair in that writing off an entire demographic is a little bit ignorant. It's not acceptable for people to say "I wouldn't date/marry/**** black guys" so this isn't really that different. Might not have found one attractive yet, and the biology might be confusing/off-putting, but it's still a sweeping generalisation, and something that a lot of people can excuse their bigotries with calling it "a preference".

Reminds me of that Sky show about 15 years ago, 'There's Something About Miriam'. It's very possible for people to pass as sexually desirable until someone mentions the dirty word and you have to wonder how many of those on that show would indeed have slept with her without the stigma. I have to admit I'm not well-versed on the biology/practicality of full MTF genital surgery though.

Sadly I think a lot of transphobia is going to be peddled because India happens to be a self-centred, ignorant drama queen, and that's not fair on her or anyone who's a little less whiney.
Arguing that stating you would not knowingly get together with a trans person is ignorant is flawed logic, as that makes heterosexual men and women instantly homophobic. “How can they say they’re straight when they haven’t met everyone of the same sex yet?”
Agreeing that people have the right to determine how they want to live does not necessarily dictate that they should agree with the rationale behind the decision. As with religion, I may respect that someone converts to Catholicism, but I don’t have to genuflect whenever I walk past a cross.
How can anyone demanding the right to identify as they desire criticise others for doing the same thing?
Sounds like in this instance a main driver is an external locus of validation and a need to accordingly assert control through her own sense of gender identity. This is abusive, especially whee others might be paralysed by a fear of offending, and India is clever enough to be aware of this.

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