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Originally Posted by Jack_

Ann's a great housemate and tbh I may even want her to win, but the woman really is pathetic and a disgrace

Her thinly veiled homophobia is appalling, and I'm not surprised Andrew reacted as he did. At the start of last night's episode I thought 'hm the c word seems a little strong' but within the context of what she said to him I don't blame him at all, if someone brought my family into a scenario like that I'd be saying much the same if not worse. Who is she to insinuate that his mum and nan won't be proud of him for play fighting with another man? That's literally all they were doing, it wasn't a PDA at all

By the way, the 'she's just a prude' stuff isn't much better an excuse either. I couldn't care less, she's in the ****ing Big Brother house not the Oval Office. Yes, she has every right to her opinion and I completely respect the fact that she is from a different generation that has a lower tolerance level for certain behaviour. However, that doesn't give her the right to expect that everyone else should have to censor themselves around her, and quite frankly I don't know why they are and are pandering to her nonsense. If she doesn't like it, she can leave the room.

Finally, this whole 'she's a frail old vulnerable woman, we mustn't speak about her like that' is a load of patronising AGEIST (yes I said ageist) ****e too. In much the same way that any true feminist doesn't think that women shouldn't be allowed to express their sexuality, or that doors should be opened for them, or that they're a vulnerable homogenous group that must be protected at all costs (in other words the very antithesis of feminism) - so too must people realise that if you don't want ageism to be a thing, you cannot treat young and old people differently. If someone is being a ****, aged seven, seventeen or seventy - you are entitled to express that. One's age is no excuse. Either you own your behaviour or you don't. Either you're on an equal footing to everyone else or you're not. Putting older people on a pedestal as if they're delicate little flowers is so patronising it's unbelievable. Dare I say had Ann ****ing Widdecombe heard what Andrew had said, I'm pretty damn sure she'd have been able to handle herself. And rightly so.

I have to disagree Jack

If you need to discuss something with an older person, it is not hard to put it in a polite manner to them. If they agree or disagree, discuss in a manner which is not patronizing towards them either. They will not take umbrage with this, what is so hard in not using profanities every other word unless your vocabulary is limited. Being young is no excuse either, everyone knows what is right or wrong.

People respond to how they are treated, all ages the same. Why you felt the need to call Ann ****ing Widdicombe when she has never sworn at anyone in the house or felt the need to because she can quite easily get her point across without using profanities, is not her problem but the person who is using it.

I am sick to the back teeth of all this homophobic nonsense being aimed at anyone who doesn't toe the Gay Cause line. I couldn't care less who sleeps with who, Gay, straight, men, women, whatever, whoever and their dog. What I do not want to see is blatant exhibitioning in front of the cameras for airtime between two people who only want to be famous and will only be famous for five minutes.

I am sure Ann didn't want to see it either and she is allowed to say so. Just the same as she removes herself from the room so others can enjoy themselves late at night. She did remove herself from the room every evening, so how is that her censoring others.

If the general public agreed with Andrew, he would still be there but he was booted out first. They have kept Ann in every time she was nominated against India, Maggie and she had the most votes.

Both Johnny and Daniel wanted her to win tonight, does that sound as if they had anything against her?

So it seems she is not the most hated, or she is the most boring but she is one of the most POPULAR persons in there at the moment, whether you like it or not.
Even with her views, even with her track record and even at her age.

Think on.