[Candy Annie Cane]

Originally Posted by Ammi

...I tend to agree with Jack and what he’s said ..(..great to see you posting, Jack....)..’people respond to how they’re treated’ is very true...and that’s exactly what happened.....Andrew responded to Ann questioning his mum’s ‘pride’ through any of his behaviour in the house and that is absolutely not there for her to question..it crossed a boundary for more ‘unacceptable’ than any terminology Andrew may have used in response...not that he maybe held her in much respect anyway, but with what she said it’s easy to see why he felt she merited no respect at all...and so yeah, he responded in the name calling...maybe not the best response, I agree..but at least that response was directed at and only ‘judging’ Ann...which is not what she did, she had assumed the speaking for his family or a family member, someone he obviously loves and whose opinion he would hold very dear...even if she had been a mother herself and had said...oh I’m just saying to try to say how that would make me feel..?....that would still be wrong and not for her to say what any other mum would find pride in or ‘shame’ in, in the way she did with Andrew...it’s kind of really one of the lowest of the lows...and for me, much worse behaviour than his reaction...I mean, no matter how much Ann may have annoyed in the house through anything she’s said or any of her actions etc...whatever the age or any other factor, no one in the house has ever said to her...oh, your friends would be ashamed of you or not very proud of you, so think on...the annoyance/disapproval Ann felt toward Andrew should have only ever been directed at Andrew and no mention of his family should have ever been...with the ‘older’ and ‘younger’ thing...Yeah Andrew’s reaction may have been more explosive/not that cool, calm, collected Ann.....but what Ann said in her cruel assumption of judgement from his mum...showed really that ‘age’ itself and only that alone is not a factor in earning respect...

Don't 100% agree with this ammi. She didnt actually shame they woukd feel ashamed, she just said remember they are watching, it was andrew who later said Ann's family would and should feel ashamed of her. I agree however that family members should not be brought up, but Andrew's reaction was beyond extreme

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Don't 100% agree with this ammi. She didnt actually shame they woukd feel ashamed, she just said remember they are watching, it was andrew who later said Ann's family would and should feel ashamed of her. I agree however that family members should not be brought up, but Andrew's reaction was beyond extreme

...yeah Annie...that’s why I put ashamed in single quotations ....because it’s not what Ann actually said, more what she was inferring...that she felt his behaviour required a reminder to consider his family...

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Don't 100% agree with this ammi. She didnt actually shame they woukd feel ashamed, she just said remember they are watching, it was andrew who later said Ann's family would and should feel ashamed of her. I agree however that family members should not be brought up, but Andrew's reaction was beyond extreme

That's absolutely right, she just said they were watching. Andrew, as always went a step further, too far.

And Ann was right really as his mum's face looked pretty embarrassed during his interview last night when they showed the clips. Even Andrew looked embarrassed and immediately apologised.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by jaxie

That's absolutely right, she just said they were watching. Andrew, as always went a step further, too far.

And Ann was right really as his mum's face looked pretty embarrassed during his interview last night when they showed the clips. Even Andrew looked embarrassed and immediately apologised.

Spot on.
He never gave his family a thought when he was swearing and being nasty, maybe if he had taken on Ann’s words as a bit of advice then he wouldn’t have been booted out.
Glad he was mind.