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Old 27-01-2018, 11:39 PM #1
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Default Was Hitler Left-wing or Right-wing?

I'm on the fence about this, especially since the left to right schema seems to be more relative than absolute... I mean if we can't in a stable way describe the middle, then it's not really that well-defined is it?

Anyway... the discussion has come up a couple of times and nobody seems willing to present an opposing argument for it being right-wing, so I'll present the arguments that I have read...

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Source: MYTH BUSTED : Actually, Yes, Hitler Was a Socialist Liberal
https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/my...alist-liberal/

Also if you look at the far-right/far-left pages on Wikipedia... the far-left definitely omits the counter-argument entirely, but the far-right seems pretty fleshed out.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-left_politics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics

I see it more as a grey area, that maybe Hitler started out far-left in policy and once he was entrenched, he went far-right in practice (dictator). And there's a good another example of this in North Korea... NK started as a democratic socialist regime, though from what we have seen, it's gone away from it's roots

Anyway, I find the left-right scheme needs improvement. I think the only legitimate reason we have things like far-* is to label people who go off the deep end... but in the end, does it matter which end we go off of? Both are still a cliff.

You can find a myriad of opinions at this site (most are for it being left-wing):
http://www.debate.org/opinions/is-fa...-right-wing-no

This one is interesting...

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Is Fascism left-wing or right-wing?
I don't think its either one

Fascism is a social political ideology that has never fully been implemented. Societies (governments) that have tried get stuck in the communistic stage of development. When a dictator finally creates a totalitarian or oligarchy regime they don't want to give it over to the people to complete the theory. I would say in theory its more right but in practice its more left..Really neither one though.
Anyway I find the left-right schema is awful... the political compass thingy at least makes it a bit clearer, but still problematic...



I mean really? Trump is up there with Hitler in authoritarianism but more right?... He is high in authoritarianism, but as far as I'm aware he hasn't murdered any of his enemies yet.

But actually if it makes sense Hitler would be near the center if his views ended up cancelling each other out (see, ****ty schema)
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