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Originally Posted by jaxie

Sorry to hear you are embarrassed.

Originally Posted by Cherie

Thanks babes I appreciate that second hand embarrassment is a terrible thing, it's just hard not to cringe for you all

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I'm sure those saying they never intended to change the vote would have had no problem with Hitler invading Poland as he was probably only going there for a holiday.

Godwin's law makes an appearance in the Big Brother subforum. Who'd have thought it?

Originally Posted by Withano

People dont want producer manipulation on any level, this time they tried to be sneaky instead of outright pissing us all off without warning (which i suppose could be seen as improvement... its still nowhere near good or professional enough for the last million fans though). People were angry when they thought VTS was gonna win, and people are happy that it didnt. They’re allowed to celebrate a win over ****ty production, just as you would have celebrated if ****ty production won over the common sense.

Actually that's not true at all, there have been times in the past where the producers have manipulated or engineered results and the majority of this forum was elated because it was for one of their favourites. When it became clear last series that they were doing the nightly voting update to help save Isabelle, suddenly people were in favour, and have commended that move in the months after the fact. The rigging to save Charley in BB8 is also looked back upon fondly and as something hilarious. When it gets them the result they want (i.e. one that benefits their favourites), people are content with producer manipulation. That's fine, it's the same for me too. What others need to do is just own up and admit that rather than pretending that they're consistent and have always been about fairness

Where did I say people weren't allowed to celebrate? My point was that there was nothing to throw a strop over in the first place. It was clear nothing was going to change, that the "win over production" was going to be obvious, and like I would've done had they actually rigged it, maybe people could just go "fair enough, I was wrong and overreacted" - because they were