[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Perhaps if someone had put their hands on him when he was younger... his parents perhaps... he wouldn't be such an arsehole now. "I'm only 15" means I can say pretty much anything I like to you and you have to let me.

How do you know they didn't?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How do you know they didn't?

The boy's sense of impunity and entitlement. The way he acted like an arsehole and then once he'd wound the bloke up like he's a man, fell back on the fact he is 15.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

The boy's sense of impunity and entitlement. The way he acted like an arsehole and then once he'd wound the bloke up like he's a man, fell back on the fact he is 15.

From what I've read on the subject of corporal punishment a child is more likely to grow up violent/aggressive if they're hit when kids

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

From what I've read on the subject of corporal punishment a child is more likely to grow up violent/aggressive if they're hit when kids

Monkey see monkey do.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Monkey see monkey do.

Pretty much

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Pretty much

But it can go the other way,

Kids traumatised or the grow up and be better to their own kids

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

But it can go the other way,

Kids traumatised or the grow up and be better to their own kids

Either scenario says hitting your kids as punishment is the lazy option. Not hitting your kids as a discipline method doesn't mean you let your kids do whatever they want, there are better, non violent options

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Monkey see monkey do.

Yes well he's obv from a family of monkey brain's - no offence to monkeys.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

From what I've read on the subject of corporal punishment a child is more likely to grow up violent/aggressive if they're hit when kids

You know better than that Niamh! Letting years of research and verified statistical analysis get in the way of a good old bit of baseless opinion and anecdotal nothingness. Of course if this kid's dad had given him a couple of black eyes when he was a kid he would have grown up to be respectful towards bus drivers. That's just obvious.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You know better than that Niamh! Letting years of research and verified statistical analysis get in the way of a good old bit of baseless opinion and anecdotal nothingness. Of course if this kid's dad had given him a couple of black eyes when he was a kid he would have grown up to be respectful towards bus drivers. That's just obvious.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You know better than that Niamh! Letting years of research and verified statistical analysis get in the way of a good old bit of baseless opinion and anecdotal nothingness. Of course if this kid's dad had given him a couple of black eyes when he was a kid he would have grown up to be respectful towards bus drivers. That's just obvious.

what research is this?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

what research is this?

Research that doesn't know or show the difference between beating and chastising. Smacking a child and beating the sh1t out of it.

I truly regret saying anything because it's turned this kid into some kind of bleeding heart case. No one knows what his childhood was like. Maybe if he'd had more discipline (is that more acceptable?) then he wouldn't be such an arsehole.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Research that doesn't know or show the difference between beating and chastising. Smacking a child and beating the sh1t out of it.

I truly regret saying anything because it's turned this kid into some kind of bleeding heart case. No one knows what his childhood was like. Maybe if he'd had more discipline (is that more acceptable?) they he wouldn't be such an arsehole.

Chastising can be done without actually becoming psychical.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

From what I've read on the subject of corporal punishment a child is more likely to grow up violent/aggressive if they're hit when kids

Well that's what they say. And whether or not this kid was hit as a child one thing's for sure... his parents won't take responsibility and lots of people will make excuses for him and his bad behaviour. Thing is, if he carries on he'll end up being properly beaten by someone bigger and nastier, and once he's turned 18 no one will care whether he had a hard childhood or not.