[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Each one always fighting for your rights ya cheeky ****e.


But even though I'm hyper intelligent I, as yet. Can not mind read.

and a cheeky bum squeeze for you then

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

the bible says

so idk

That's because God created Adam & Eve , plus it's all about interpretation as some would say it's more to do with adultery , we're all sinners one way or another nobody is perfect . Some people take everything so literal but there's more to it than that as we're meant to be loving to each other .

[montblanc]

obviously not

being gay isn’t something that needs to be “fixed”

[Redway]

The Bible makes itself pretty clear what it thinks about homosexuality in both the Old and New Testament.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Redway

The Bible makes itself pretty clear what it thinks about homosexuality in both the Old and New Testament.

There's alot of things that's frowned upon , like I said it's about interpretation . Some people take everything in the Bible literal , whereas others are more open minded especially in this day & age .

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

"Prayer is, for many people, a powerful and spiritual experience.

Belief in God helps many religious people in their lives in numerous ways. I grew up in the church and understand how faith can be a strength and a comfort."

says the reporter

utter bollocks mate, where is your evidence, you are as bad as the criminal "pastor"

Where is his evidence of what? That faith can be a strength and a comfort to people?

[Redway]

1 Corinthians 6:9 (ESV)

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,

Bible makes itself pretty clear to me. I don’t side with the Bible one bit in general but I don’t see much room for ambiguity there.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Redway

1 Corinthians 6:9 (ESV)

Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,

Bible makes itself pretty clear to me. I don’t side with the Bible one bit in general but I don’t see much room for ambiguity there.

Are you going to quote the Quran next ?

[Tom4784]

Sexuality isn't a disease and these cockrots are just charlatans peddling in delusions and dangerous psychological abuse.

Sexuality is not a fluid thing. Straight, Gay, Bisexual or Asexual, everyone is one of these things and it simply comes down to whether or not you are aware of which label truly fits you. It can't be changed, you can only delude yourself into thinking you've changed what is a chemical reaction within you.

Happiness comes from acceptance, not delusion.

[Tom4784]

When it comes to Christianity at least, I don't tolerate homophobes using the bible as an excuse for their hatred as pretty much every christian picks and chooses what parts of the bible best suits them as the bible is widly contradictory. If you think being stoned for wearing more than two different kinds of fabrics is silly but believe that hating someone on the grounds of sexuality is acceptable then I won't accept the excuse of religion for your bigotry.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Sexuality isn't a disease and these cockrots are just charlatans peddling in delusions and dangerous psychological abuse.

Sexuality is not a fluid thing. Straight, Gay, Bisexual or Asexual, everyone is one of these things and it simply comes down to whether or not you are aware of which label truly fits you. It can't be changed, you can only delude yourself into thinking you've changed what is a chemical reaction within you.

Happiness comes from acceptance, not delusion.

Even today there's still people that don't understand Asexuality , but they probably still find people attractive but they don't feel the need to enter a relationship .

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

When it comes to Christianity at least, I don't tolerate homophobes using the bible as an excuse for their hatred as pretty much every christian picks and chooses what parts of the bible best suits them as the bible is widly contradictory. If you think being stoned for wearing more than two different kinds of fabrics is silly but believe that hating someone on the grounds of sexuality is acceptable then I won't accept the excuse of religion for your bigotry.

Obviously there's hypocrisy in all kinds of people . But think about countries where they push people off buildings and actually persecute people for it . Those same places treat women like they're not human .

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

When it comes to Christianity at least, I don't tolerate homophobes using the bible as an excuse for their hatred as pretty much every christian picks and chooses what parts of the bible best suits them as the bible is widly contradictory. If you think being stoned for wearing more than two different kinds of fabrics is silly but believe that hating someone on the grounds of sexuality is acceptable then I won't accept the excuse of religion for your bigotry.

I’m no homophobe, what I’m against is people using the Bible to defend homosexuality. Not that it needs defending but most orthodox religions are pretty clear and unambiguous about what they think of homosexuality. That’s it. I wasn’t speaking for myself or my views on it.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Are you going to quote the Quran next ?

Stop trying to evade the point.

Why would gay people seek validation from a corrupt book like the Bible in the first place?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Redway

I’m no homophobe, what I’m against is people using the Bible to defend homosexuality. Not that it needs defending but most orthodox religions are pretty clear and unambiguous about what they think of homosexuality. That’s it. I wasn’t speaking for myself or my views on it.

The point is people have their views .

It's not about using it to defend sexuality ,but I don't like how Christianity gets used as an easy target . This was the main headline on the news ,but in other countries there's people with zero rights . Plus not all religious people are mental .

[Marsh.]

Yes. It cured me of my insatiable lust for Smithy.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yes. It cured me of my insatiable lust for Smithy.

oop
might have to try that then

[Redway]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

The point is people have their views .

It's not about using it to defend sexuality ,but I don't like how Christianity gets used as an easy target . This was the main headline on the news ,but in other countries there's people with zero rights . Plus not all religious people are mental .

That’s because another religion’s headed by a paedo and responsible for too many national disasters since the turn of the century. You’d be hard-pressed to find someone who’s got anything positive to say about Islam in the first place.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Redway

Stop trying to evade the point.

Why would gay people seek validation from a corrupt book like the Bible in the first place?

Because they believe in god?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

and a cheeky bum squeeze for you then

So did you mean society or the forum?

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

The point is people have their views .

It's not about using it to defend sexuality ,but I don't like how Christianity gets used as an easy target . This was the main headline on the news ,but in other countries there's people with zero rights . Plus not all religious people are mental .

I get where you're coming from. There are "worse" religions, but it's easy to have a go at Christianity as they won't accuse you of e.g. anti-semitism or islamophobia. Not to mention nobody will come round to kill you.

But having said that I'm with Redway, we can't deny all three Abrahamic religions have anti-homosexual texts in them which are still used to discriminate.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by parmnion

So did you mean society or the forum?

my reply is rhetorical: is not a forum but a reflection of society?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

my reply is rhetorical: isn't a forum but a reflection of society?

Gutless.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

I get where you're coming from. There are "worse" religions, but it's easy to have a go at Christianity as they won't accuse you of e.g. anti-semitism or islamophobia. Not to mention nobody will come round to kill you.

But having said that I'm with Redway, we can't deny all three Abrahamic religions have anti-homosexual texts in them which are still used to discriminate.

There's still no denying Religion brings comfort to some people , even the most devout person struggles with their faith .

There's plenty of loving open minded religious people around as well . Not everyone is a strict militant with fingers in their ears .

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Gutless.

you want to me to say the forum, don't you
why would I do that? this is a largely gay-friendly forum
so why you feel the need to defend gays on here?