[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

When it comes right down to it the situation is still as it was on the first page; all the information is as yet unavailable and people are keen to draw conclusions from an incomplete story. Those who were certain that he was definitely attacked currently have egg on their faces as recent developments certainly indicate that it may have been a staged attack and that he was in on it... however... that makes it seem even stranger to me that the "other side" are so willing to commit fully to the idea that they've "now figured out what happened" which is clearly risking the same.

For what it's worth, it looks like the original story is absolutely full of holes but there's probably more to it than what has come out so far.

It's a fascinating story if you look at it from a detached standpoint but a LOT of people seem to have some sort of vested interest in this... on "both sides"... for various reasons which are *ahem* open to speculation . It's become a tense battle between opposing circlejerking factions who are each desperate to shout "HAH! Told u so!!!" and the actual details are mattering less and less. No matter what the outcome, no one is winning here, except of course sensible chaps like you and me NM who are only here for the show.


[edit] Oh, also, Alf took the "it's all BS" stance immediately and was proven (it seems) right after there had already been a lot of battling about it... but then in his vindication, made an utter spectacle of himself and got a week long ban. And Becs is Alf on an alt, OR maybe Brillo, OR a friend of Alf's, OR a new member but no one cares. That should be you up to date.

Thanks for the update TS

I wouldn’t like to take a side on this as I don’t know much about it.(same reason I generally stay out of the McCann threads).
It seems very strange though from everything i’ve read on here.The original story seems to get weaker as time goes by.

Maybe more evidence will come about later or if not one of those unsolved mysteries shows will tackle it.

People’s instant reaction these days especially when it comes to minorities or women is ‘always believe the victim’ which I don’t agree with.It seems like people wanting to be with the ‘In crowd’ or ‘woke brigade’ as leaning left is the current trend,Or pay the ultimate price of being left out in the cold on Twitter.
Opinions are the latest fasion accessories.

Modern politics has a part to play in this.
People are either on one side or the other.Left or Right.Choose a side.
No room for good old fence sitting anymore.