[Cherie]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

This whole thread is one big get off my lawn. A pity the older generations didn't care about climate as much as they do about encouraging police brutality, then protests like this wouldn't be needed in the first place.

How old are you going with this? it only really since the early 80s when consumerism has really took off and this has really driven climate change, older generations didn't have central heating, they didn't buy their veg smothered in plastic in fact most grew their own, most didn't take foreign holidays, or if they did it was once a year, they didn't have two cars sitting on the drive, they didn't buy clothes, wear them a few times and throw them away, they used bars of soap, not shower gels full of plastic beads, they didn't buy loads of old tut at Christmas or buy their kids loads of plastic toys all to end up in landfill, I could go on?

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

How old are you going with this? it only really since the early 80s when consumerism has really took off and this has really driven climate change, older generations didn't have central heating, they didn't buy their veg smothered in plastic in fact most grew their own, most didn't take foreign holidays, or if they did it was once a year, they didn't have two cars sitting on the drive, they didn't buy clothes, wear them a few times and throw them away, they used bars of soap, not shower gels full of plastic beads, they didn't buy loads of old tut at Christmas or buy their kids loads of plastic toys all to end up in landfill, I could go on?

No bottled water, pop was in glass bottles that you took back to the shop for a few pence return ,milk was in glass bottles too .. And policemen were policemen ,they wouldn't have stood for this carry on

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Cherie

How old are you going with this? it only really since the early 80s when consumerism has really took off and this has really driven climate change, older generations didn't have central heating, they didn't buy their veg smothered in plastic in fact most grew their own, most didn't take foreign holidays, or if they did it was once a year, they didn't have two cars sitting on the drive, they didn't buy clothes, wear them a few times and throw them away, they used bars of soap, not shower gels full of plastic beads, they didn't buy loads of old tut at Christmas or buy their kids loads of plastic toys all to end up in landfill, I could go on?

Great post Cherie bomb.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Cherie

How old are you going with this? it only really since the early 80s when consumerism has really took off and this has really driven climate change, older generations didn't have central heating, they didn't buy their veg smothered in plastic in fact most grew their own, most didn't take foreign holidays, or if they did it was once a year, they didn't have two cars sitting on the drive, they didn't buy clothes, wear them a few times and throw them away, they used bars of soap, not shower gels full of plastic beads, they didn't buy loads of old tut at Christmas or buy their kids loads of plastic toys all to end up in landfill, I could go on?

Well it's to do with dirty industrialization, not consumer lifestyle, but go off I guess

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Well it's to do with dirty industrialization, not consumer lifestyle, but go off I guess

It takes dirty industrialisation to produce the crap that people are buying. Isn't that right?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Livia

It takes dirty industrialisation to produce the crap that people are buying. Isn't that right?

If there wasn't an appetite for it, they wouldn't be making it

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Livia

It takes dirty industrialisation to produce the crap that people are buying. Isn't that right?

Well Idk, but that ship has sailed in most of the world anyway.
We didn't know back then the climate was at risk, we didn't have much clean technology if at all so it happened as it happened.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Well it's to do with dirty industrialization, not consumer lifestyle, but go off I guess

oh please call it what you like, consumerism is at the heart of how we are killing the planet,

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

oh please call it what you like, consumerism is at the heart of how we are killing the planet,

Right on point Cherie,some people want the convenience but not the bother of the consequences, we have a waste bin not far from our house and people STILL drop their litter ,dog crap etc just anywhere but the bin,lazy fookers ,fooking up the planet and killing the wildlife,but hey its ok as long as I have my plastic bottle of water/pop(a glass one is far too heavy) and some other mug can pick up my littler and fag ends,as they like to work !!! People don't like to admit they are last barstards but many are. If we all sorted our litter out the oceans wouldn't be full of it,it's just common sense.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Well it's to do with dirty industrialization, not consumer lifestyle, but go off I guess

Do you understand how consumerism works? If no-one spends their money on things, they go away. If people stopped consuming the results of industrialisation, it would shrink and possibly die.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Do you understand how consumerism works? If no-one spends their money on things, they go away. If people stopped consuming the results of industrialisation, it would shrink and possibly die.

and why are you lecturing me?
I have no problem with industrialisation or consummerism as such, both are essential. We just have to be clever about it, now that technology allows it.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

and why are you lecturing me?
I have no problem with industrialisation or consummerism as such, both are essential. We just have to be clever about it, now that technology allows it.

A three sentence response to something you said is hardly a lecture

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

A three sentence response to something you said is hardly a lecture

it is if you teaching me basic concepts

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

it is if you teaching me basic concepts

Eh, perhaps. I just wasn't sure if you knew them

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Well it's to do with dirty industrialization, not consumer lifestyle, but go off I guess

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

How old are you going with this? it only really since the early 80s when consumerism has really took off and this has really driven climate change, older generations didn't have central heating, they didn't buy their veg smothered in plastic in fact most grew their own, most didn't take foreign holidays, or if they did it was once a year, they didn't have two cars sitting on the drive, they didn't buy clothes, wear them a few times and throw them away, they used bars of soap, not shower gels full of plastic beads, they didn't buy loads of old tut at Christmas or buy their kids loads of plastic toys all to end up in landfill, I could go on?

Yeah sorry, I agree with this tbh. Blaming older people is a cop out. Its not older people (speaking generally) buying all the plastic ****e. And most older people I know grow their own veg and stuff and are quite into recycling? Not sure where this version of older people you speak of comes from really, are most older people you know like that?! I find that..sad really. Speaking broadly, I have found older people care much more about global warming than younger ones. They consume less plastic tat crap, and seem to be more bothered about littering and recycling than most. I mean, these protesters have left behind hundreds of ****ing plastic bottles on the floor instead of cleaning uip after themselves, so clearly they DONT actually care about the environment? So why awre they protresting? Seems attention seeking to me to be quite honest, if they aren't actually bothered about global warming and that given they are contributing. The celeb woman who flew 6000 miles to join a protest about air travel and such, I find ****ing hilarious. And shes being hailed as a hero?! Hypocrites, the lot of them tbh. A few may be genuine, but it seems the majority are just there for something to do to get their faces in the news!

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

Yeah sorry, I agree with this tbh. Blaming older people is a cop out. Its not older people (speaking generally) buying all the plastic ****e. And most older people I know grow their own veg and stuff and are quite into recycling? Not sure where this version of older people you speak of comes from really, are most older people you know like that?! I find that..sad really. Speaking broadly, I have found older people care much more about global warming than younger ones. They consume less plastic tat crap, and seem to be more bothered about littering and recycling than most. I mean, these protesters have left behind hundreds of ****ing plastic bottles on the floor instead of cleaning uip after themselves, so clearly they DONT actually care about the environment? So why awre they protresting? Seems attention seeking to me to be quite honest, if they aren't actually bothered about global warming and that given they are contributing. The celeb woman who flew 6000 miles to join a protest about air travel and such, I find ****ing hilarious. And shes being hailed as a hero?! Hypocrites, the lot of them tbh. A few may be genuine, but it seems the majority are just there for something to do to get their faces in the news!