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Twosugars · 23-04-2019, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

How old are you going with this? it only really since the early 80s when consumerism has really took off and this has really driven climate change, older generations didn't have central heating, they didn't buy their veg smothered in plastic in fact most grew their own, most didn't take foreign holidays, or if they did it was once a year, they didn't have two cars sitting on the drive, they didn't buy clothes, wear them a few times and throw them away, they used bars of soap, not shower gels full of plastic beads, they didn't buy loads of old tut at Christmas or buy their kids loads of plastic toys all to end up in landfill, I could go on?

Well it's to do with dirty industrialization, not consumer lifestyle, but go off I guess

Livia · 23-04-2019, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

Well it's to do with dirty industrialization, not consumer lifestyle, but go off I guess

It takes dirty industrialisation to produce the crap that people are buying. Isn't that right?

Cherry Christmas · 23-04-2019, 10:29 AM

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It takes dirty industrialisation to produce the crap that people are buying. Isn't that right?

If there wasn't an appetite for it, they wouldn't be making it

Twosugars · 23-04-2019, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia

It takes dirty industrialisation to produce the crap that people are buying. Isn't that right?

Well Idk, but that ship has sailed in most of the world anyway.
We didn't know back then the climate was at risk, we didn't have much clean technology if at all so it happened as it happened.

Cherry Christmas · 23-04-2019, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

Well it's to do with dirty industrialization, not consumer lifestyle, but go off I guess

oh please call it what you like, consumerism is at the heart of how we are killing the planet,

Kazanne · 23-04-2019, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

oh please call it what you like, consumerism is at the heart of how we are killing the planet,

Right on point Cherie,some people want the convenience but not the bother of the consequences, we have a waste bin not far from our house and people STILL drop their litter ,dog crap etc just anywhere but the bin,lazy fookers ,fooking up the planet and killing the wildlife,but hey its ok as long as I have my plastic bottle of water/pop(a glass one is far too heavy

) and some other mug can pick up my littler and fag ends,as they like to work !!! People don't like to admit they are last barstards but many are. If we all sorted our litter out the oceans wouldn't be full of it,it's just common sense.

Oliver_W · 23-04-2019, 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

Well it's to do with dirty industrialization, not consumer lifestyle, but go off I guess

Do you understand how consumerism works? If no-one spends their money on things, they go away. If people stopped consuming the results of industrialisation, it would shrink and possibly die.

Twosugars · 23-04-2019, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Do you understand how consumerism works? If no-one spends their money on things, they go away. If people stopped consuming the results of industrialisation, it would shrink and possibly die.

and why are you lecturing me?
I have no problem with industrialisation or consummerism as such, both are essential. We just have to be clever about it, now that technology allows it.

Oliver_W · 23-04-2019, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars

and why are you lecturing me?
I have no problem with industrialisation or consummerism as such, both are essential. We just have to be clever about it, now that technology allows it.

A three sentence response to something you said is hardly a lecture