[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Very sad and it is depressing how these children aren't even viewed as people it seems. I say it everytime on this subject but we are all just lucky that we've been born in places that allow us to live a decent life, if we weren't we'd all be trying to get somewhere where our kids could have a better shot in life aswell

Agree with this 100%. We are extremely lucky, and really thats all it is, luck. Where you were pushed out of a vagina defines if you are an actual person or someone who it just a parasite who wants to take all of a countries money and be looked after as clearly theres no reason to move unless you are greedy. Even kids. I never understand those berating parents for wanting a better life for their kids. I know I would do it, if in the situation, and fairly sure near all others would too. No way is someone going to sit and think 'well my kids couldhave a decent education, be safer and looked after etc, however the people in that country would not be happy so of course I won't go'

[user104658]

Honestly I don't know how anyone can even attempt to justify something like this. Can it even be debated? The mindset required to even for a moment think that it's appropriate to house anyone - let alone children - in an ex internment camp is so twisted that it's like arguing against a brick wall.

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I never understand those berating parents for wanting a better life for their kids. I know I would do it, if in the situation, and fairly sure near all others would too. No way is someone going to sit and think 'well my kids couldhave a decent education, be safer and looked after etc, however the people in that country would not be happy so of course I won't go'

It's a bizarre slice of cognitive dissonance... the idea that parents seeking a better existence for their children in a wealthier country are somehow acting immorally. Is there anything less immoral than risking your liberty, and your life, for a better life for your family??

But of course as I say cognitive dissonance because we all know that the people who are firmly against people from elsewhere doing this, would be first in line at the docks if the UK somehow became a warzone. Yet people actually deny this flat out. "No I'd stay in my home and starve because it's the right thing to do " - or - "Well I'd go but I'd stop at the first safe country even if it was a freezng cold, dirty, temporary camp!". Utter BS.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Honestly I don't know how anyone can even attempt to justify something like this. Can it even be debated? The mindset required to even for a moment think that it's appropriate to house anyone - let alone children - in an ex internment camp is so twisted that it's like arguing against a brick wall.



It's a bizarre slice of cognitive dissonance... the idea that parents seeking a better existence for their children in a wealthier country are somehow acting immorally. Is there anything less immoral than risking your liberty, and your life, for a better life for your family??

But of course as I say cognitive dissonance because we all know that the people who are firmly against people from elsewhere doing this, would be first in line at the docks if the UK somehow became a warzone. Yet people actually deny this flat out. "No I'd stay in my home and starve because it's the right thing to do " - or - "Well I'd go but I'd stop at the first safe country even if it was a freezng cold, dirty, temporary camp!". Utter BS.

Yep, it's ludicrous. I'd like a show of hands for all those who wouldn't try and leave a war torn/massively poor country in search of a better future for their kids and themselves

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yep, it's ludicrous. I'd like a show of hands for all those who wouldn't try and leave a war torn/massively poor country in search of a better future for their kids and themselves

Of course I would, but after months of hardship during the journey I think a lay down in a bed for two months or so would be a godsend...I certainly wouldn't care what the building had been used for in the past considering all the mental asylums that all re now plush 3-4 bed apartment blocks...Toy Soldier mentioned brick walls before, very apt, cause in the end that's all it is...brick walls.