[Livia]

Originally Posted by Swan

Livia is absolutely spot on with every point they make in this thread.

Thank you, Swan. I am not a Robinson fan, but to watch all the lefties, who get so bent out of shape at any suggestion of violence in their own ranks, actively supporting Robinson get beaten in prison is sickening, but predictable. People died for us to be able to stand up and air our views, but obviously that only really applies to the Left.

[Swan]

Originally Posted by Livia

Thank you, Swan. I am not a Robinson fan, but to watch all the lefties, who get so bent out of shape at any suggestion of violence in their own ranks, actively supporting Robinson get beaten in prison is sickening, but predictable. People died for us to be able to stand up and air our views, but obviously that only really applies to the Left.

Yes i don't care much for Robinson either, and seeing him with the vile Hopkins really does put me off. But yes it's because it's Robinson, the twisting and diverting is actually rather unsettling.

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Thank you, Swan. I am not a Robinson fan, but to watch all the lefties, who get so bent out of shape at any suggestion of violence in their own ranks, actively supporting Robinson get beaten in prison is sickening, but predictable. People died for us to be able to stand up and air our views, but obviously that only really applies to the Left.

Erm, I don't see that on here?

Only person who seems a little happy about it..is right wing. And is also somone who tends to take the view that will wind people up, regardless of the topic.

I don't hope he is beaten or anything in prison. I do however, think prison is clearly the right place for him. And if he is actually in physical danger, he can always be put in isolation for his own safety.

Edit: ah, I possibly see what you mean.

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Given his history of inciting reactions and then playing the victim, I doubt any story in which he claims to be the victim without proof. He has made a living in goading reactions from others and then framing that reaction as an unprovoked response. Chances are, knowing that, if he is attacked in prison, he will have probably provoked it in some way.

But this is not all the lefties, tis a left wing member, one.

This bit though

Chances are, knowing that, if he is attacked in prison, he will have probably provoked it in some way.

Is quite bad. Violence is always the fault of the person being violent (unless self defense obv) so blaming the person (potentially) on the recieving end is crappy I think. Yeah, hes mouthy and likely to cause arguments. But, if someone whacks him, thats their fault not his IMO.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Swan

Livia is absolutely spot on with every point they make in this thread.

Except for for the fact she's wrong about everything and has spent a lot of tiem making out that anyone who is glad that the law has won is somehow sympathetic to peadophiles. If you think that is correct then you lack perspective.

Originally Posted by Livia

Thank you, Swan. I am not a Robinson fan, but to watch all the lefties, who get so bent out of shape at any suggestion of violence in their own ranks, actively supporting Robinson get beaten in prison is sickening, but predictable. People died for us to be able to stand up and air our views, but obviously that only really applies to the Left.

For someone who claims to not be a Robinson fan, you sound a lot like one. Once again, you are using the plight of the victims in the case that Tommy Robinson almost tore apart to push your agenda against the left and it's utterly reprehensible behaviour. It's like these victims are just tools to bash someone you dislike with.

I'm not gonna weep for a man that received plenty of warnings to stop breaking the law and refused to listen, I'm not gonna care if he gets attacked in prison when he has a history of provoking people in order to be seen as a victim, I'm not gonna spare a thought for a violent man who receives violence in return.

He is a hate fuelled bigot and he is not deserving of sympathy as his situation is one of his own making. I won't wish harm on him but that doesn't mean I'll pretend to shed a tear if his actions have consequences.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I'm not gonna care if he gets attacked in prison when he has a history of provoking people

Nice victim blaming there. No amount of words justify violence.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Nice victim blaming there. No amount of words justify violence.

Not condoning violence doesn't mean you have to care, though, and also to suggest that Tommy Robinson has only ever used "words" is flat out false. Just a couple of months ago he was in Portugal sucker-punching a bloke in the back of the head.

So meh. I don't "hope" for him to get attacked in prison and I 100% believe that prisons have a duty of care over their prisoners to try to ensure that one one is attacked (and that failing would be my main concern, we're he to be hurt in prison)... However, I'm not going to lose any sleep over the idea that he might be attacked, or suggest that he should be spared prison because his own actions have put him at increased risk.

[Twosugars]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Nice victim blaming there. No amount of words justify violence.

Goebbels?

[Twosugars]

Also we saw a thuggery from his supporters, throwing bottles at the police and attacking journalists

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Twosugars

Also we saw a thuggery from his supporters, throwing bottles at the police and attacking journalists

We can see thuggery from people on all sides of the political spectrum, but people are responsible for their own actions. I wouldn't blame Corbyn for the actions of Momentum.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

We can see thuggery from people on all sides of the political spectrum, but people are responsible for their own actions. I wouldn't blame Corbyn for the actions of Momentum.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

We can see thuggery from people on all sides of the political spectrum, but people are responsible for their own actions. I wouldn't blame Corbyn for the actions of Momentum.

Entitled centrism and whataboutism.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Nice victim blaming there. No amount of words justify violence.

Nice reading comprehension there.

I'm not justifying violence, I simply don't care about Robinson when he has a history of being violent towards others and baiting out certain responses to profit from it later.

If you think that's me justifying violence against him and not showing off my apathy towards a man who thrives off reactions getting the reaction he wants then you need to read what I'm saying again.