[arista]

"another referendum."


No Joey
its General Election Only.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It's ok people banging on about getting a deal,what if the EU doesn't give us a deal ? what do they want us to do then ?

They want us to stay in, that's their goal. They're quite fond of our money, and would like to take an interest in our military, long term.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It's ok people banging on about getting a deal,what if the EU doesn't give us a deal ? what do they want us to do then ?

They already have..
A deal the Lady you so seemed to admire agreed with them
That was voted down by this PM you now so admire and many of his Cabinet too.

Oppositions aren't there to help governments they have no input in.

Read history..
The NHS the Cons voted against every move to bring thst in.

The Cons voted against every step of a minimum wage.

She had a deal from the EU.
It's her own extreme MPs, now the Cabinet who defeated her and that deal, no one else.

It's still there, Rory Stewart said it should be brought back for a vote.
Stephen Kinnock agrees.

Why doesn't your new hero Johnson just try that one more time.
May wanted to bring it back after talks with Labour.
However she was FORCED to resign.

He could probably get that deal passed I think.

That's some real facts for you.

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Alf

They want us to stay in, that's their goal. They're quite fond of our money, and would like to take an interest in our military, long term.

wow the delusion and arrogance here


EU has grown sick and tired of this never ending brexit chaotic mess, britain only made a fool of themselves even more than you guys already did

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

And when Boris wins big at the General Election, he'll just put no deal back on the table, and then leave. Until Brexit is complete, it's never going away, even if it takes over 20 years.

We are in agreement with that. That's why I said you death cultists need to see what it is before we can move forward as a country.

I can't blame the politicians trying to protect people from the pain of a no deal because it's the right thing to do, but ultimately I believe BJ will win the election and then the petty little entitled gimp that he is will not only force pain on the public, but he'll want revenge too, and nobody will win in this case.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

wow the delusion and arrogance here


EU has grown sick and tired of this never ending brexit chaotic mess, britain only made a fool of themselves even more than you guys already did

Bless them, the poor souls are sick and tired of us.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

We are in agreement with that. That's why I said you death cultists need to see what it is before we can move forward as a country.

I can't blame the politicians trying to protect people from the pain of a no deal because it's the right thing to do, but ultimately I believe BJ will win the election and then the petty little entitled gimp that he is will not only force pain on the public, but he'll want revenge too, and nobody will win in this case.

Not really a death cult is it? Unless you think having your vote implemented is a death cult? Or do you think wanting independence is a death cult?

[Nicky91]

Originally Posted by Alf

Bless them, the poor souls are sick and tired of us.

well the brexit party goons were the only ones ever who trolled in european parliament

if you guys wanted the EU to take you serious, well you threw that last bit of hope in the garbage bin

but trolling in european parliament was confirmation (at least for me personally) that EU is better off without you british in it

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They already have..
A deal the Lady you so seemed to admire agreed with them
That was voted down by this PM you now so admire and many of his Cabinet too.

Oppositions aren't there to help governments they have no input in.

Read history..
The NHS the Cons voted against every move to bring thst in.

The Cons voted against every step of a minimum wage.

She had a deal from the EU.
It's her own extreme MPs, now the Cabinet who defeated her and that deal, no one else.

It's still there, Rory Stewart said it should be brought back for a vote.
Stephen Kinnock agrees.

Why doesn't your new hero Johnson just try that one more time.
May wanted to bring it back after talks with Labour.
However she was FORCED to resign.

He could probably get that deal passed I think.

That's some real facts for you.

Joey,you get me wrong,I don't admire any of them,they are all in it for themselves on all sides, I dont really care whether we stay or leave ,BUT, I do feel that those who voted leave must feel very let down ,and as much as they are told they didnt know what they were voting for,they found out very soon after and they still 3 years later still want to leave either way ,plus it does seem very patronising from some of the Mps to tell people that they dont know what they are doing or voting for, It just seems at the moment the people have been forgotten and the MPs have made it all about them. I just think the name calling on both sides is childish and people need to grow up and remember the people of the country.

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

wow the delusion and arrogance here


EU has grown sick and tired of this never ending brexit chaotic mess, britain only made a fool of themselves even more than you guys already did

The EU can get rid of us easily by saying goodbye on the 31st October if they are really sick of us.
The ball is in their court.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Nicky91

well the brexit party goons were the only ones ever who trolled in european parliament

if you guys wanted the EU to take you serious, well you threw that last bit of hope in the garbage bin

but trolling in european parliament was confirmation (at least for me personally) that EU is better off without you british in it

Maybe the Brexit party goons were the only ones to ever troll in the European Parliament because they're not obedient, submissive cowards?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

The EU can get rid of us easily by saying goodbye on the 31st October if they are really sick of us.
The ball is in their court.

They would be throwing Ireland under the bus by doing that, but **** us eh?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Not really a death cult is it? Unless you think having your vote implemented is a death cult? Or do you think wanting independence is a death cult?

Everyone has tried for years to implement your vote though, that's what you don't see. We were told how easy it would be to get a deal, that we'd hold all the cards and would be able to bend the eu to our will, and Merkel would come to us begging for a deal.

I'm sorry Alf, but the fact you were promised a unicorn that is impossible to deliver because you were lied to is not any fault of 1 single remain voter, or any single labour politician.

So now, instead of your anger being directed at those who promised you the world, you're blaming everyone else but them, to the point you are willing to screw over your friends and neighbours to get the victory you believe you're owed.

When you know the consequences will lead to pain, shortages, suffering, and death, then yes, it's e deathcult.

The government are stockpiling body bags for no deal brexit. Why would any sane person not be instantly appalled by that?

[arista]

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

Joey,you get me wrong,I don't admire any of them,they are all in it for themselves on all sides, I dont really care whether we stay or leave ,BUT, I do feel that those who voted leave must feel very let down ,and as much as they are told they didnt know what they were voting for,they found out very soon after and they still 3 years later still want to leave either way ,plus it does seem very patronising from some of the Mps to tell people that they dont know what they are doing or voting for, It just seems at the moment the people have been forgotten and the MPs have made it all about them. I just think the name calling on both sides is childish and people need to grow up and remember the people of the country.

I'll ask you one question Kazanne.

Do YOU really believe all the people who voted leave, that 17.4 million.
Forget the over 16 million who voted remain if you must.
However do YOU believe all who voted leave wanted NO DEAL.
If you do, fine that explains your stance.

If you don't however believe they all wanted no deal.
Then in fairness to them too that didn't vote for no deal, how is it wrong for politicians to ensure no deal is off the table totally.

Otherwise no deal, is then surely going against the bigger majority of all who voted in that referendum.
If no deal is pursued by Johnson and co.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Maybe the Brexit party goons were the only ones to ever troll in the European Parliament because they're not obedient, submissive cowards?

We're not at war with them Alf; they're exactly the same as us but they just live a bit further away and have different languages.

You talf of obedience as a dirty word, while you bow down in complete acceptance to anything Nigel says. Even you must see the confusion?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

Everyone has tried for years to implement your vote though, that's what you don't see. We were told how easy it would be to get a deal, that we'd hold all the cards and would be able to bend the eu to our will, and Merkel would come to us begging for a deal.

I'm sorry Alf, but the fact you were promised a unicorn that is impossible to deliver because you were lied to is not any fault of 1 single remain voter, or any single labour politician.

So now, instead of your anger being directed at those who promised you the world, you're blaming everyone else but them, to the point you are willing to screw over your friends and neighbours to get the victory you believe you're owed.

When you know the consequences will lead to pain, shortages, suffering, and death, then yes, it's e deathcult.

The government are stockpiling body bags for no deal brexit. Why would any sane person not be instantly appalled by that?

Do you know what the easiest thing to do is? Just leave. Get out while we can before mainland Europe erupts, which it will, it always has done.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

We're not at war with them Alf; they're exactly the same as us but they just live a bit further away and have different languages.

You talf of obedience as a dirty word, while you bow down in complete acceptance to anything Nigel says. Even you must see the confusion?

Bow down to Nigel? I didn't even vote for his party in the Euro elections. So why would I bow down to him?

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Alf

Do you know what the easiest thing to do is? Just leave. Get out while we can before mainland Europe erupts, which it will, it always has done.

See, I give you a reasoned response addressing where this whole crapshoot went wrong, and you just ignore it and go back to the zombie-esque "leave, leave"

It's not a level playing field when one side just won't even listen to facts anymore.

Look at the content of my post you just ignored. Wake the fcuk up.

[arista]

[Alf]

Anyway, I'm done for now, I'm gonna go do a few hours work, but it was nice chatting with you my right honourable friend. I'll catch back up later on.

[arista]

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They would be throwing Ireland under the bus by doing that, but **** us eh?

Ah, didn’t think about that Niamh.
I don’t understand why the borders need to change in Ireland/Northern Ireland.
Neither the EU, Island of Ireland or Britain wants that.
We can check for any big time smuggling in our own ports, and any smuggling on the Island of Ireland would happen with or without borders.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I'll ask you one question Kazanne.

Do YOU really believe all the people who voted leave, that 17.4 million.
Forget the over 16 million who voted remain if you must.
However do YOU believe all who voted leave wanted NO DEAL.
If you do, fine that explains your stance.

If you don't however believe they all wanted no deal.
Then in fairness to them too that didn't vote for no deal, how is it wrong for politicians to ensure no deal is off the table totally.

Otherwise no deal, is then surely going against the bigger majority of all who voted in that referendum.
If no deal is pursued by Johnson and co.

Some probably didn't realise some of the implications Joey,some just want to get out and be independant ,they all had their own reasons,I think some people think the doom and gloom stories are highly exaggerated and will kick against that, and as for those who found out what some think the implications will be have known for all of 3 years as they keep getting told what could happen,those people still want to leave as far as I can see,yes it would be better with a deal, but 3 deals were rejected by parliament ,a no deal is rejected,people are just fed up of it now and dont care how we come out, I do think the 'body bags' stories are very exaggerated and not helpful.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Ah, didn’t think about that Niamh.
I don’t understand why the borders need to change in Ireland/Northern Ireland.
Neither the EU, Island of Ireland or Britain wants that.
We can check for any big time smuggling in our own ports, and any smuggling on the Island of Ireland would happen with or without borders.

Alot of people aren't thinking about that Smudgie or just don't care. The DUP won't support what you suggested because they don't want to be "different" to the rest of the UK, it's selfish and dangerous, they are different to the rest of the UK whether they want to admit it or not