[bots]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm not saying anything about Kobe. And the reason for that is, I have no idea who he is......

yeah, i had never heard of him either.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

yeah, i had never heard of him either.

Ah.... not just me then. Good.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Livia

I'm not saying anything about Kobe. And the reason for that is, I have no idea who he is......

He's the one that died in the copter crash a few weeks ago....one more dead rapist for the world to rejoice though

[Cherie]

I had never heard of him either before he died, but hey ho

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Because he's dead? I'm not saying that's "right" but it's the main reason. I'm not sure that needed explaining.

lots of people are vilified after they are dead lbr

Micheal Jackson?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It's because Jimmy Saville was a paedo while Kobe was a good looking sports hero and it was only a woman anyway, she's probably a lying slut lbr.............and also because Jimmy Saville is weird looking

pretty much

[Livia]

Oh right. Him from the helicopter crash. That is all I know about him though.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Livia

Ah.... not just me then. Good.

3 Livia,I'de not heard of him either

[Cherie]

classic TiBB thread

[Crimson Dynamo]

If only Rolf has boxed

[Denver]

Jordan Henderson or cancel the shambles of the award

[Liam-]

He’s a raging bigot, no thanks

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Liam-

He’s a raging bigot, no thanks

he is Liverpool's captain

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he is Liverpool's captain

[Kizzy]

He's a personality and a half I'll give him that.. however, unless he retracts those comments I wouldn't say he was a good candidate for any award not specifically linked to his sporting ability.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I haven't actually changed how I think though, I have judged people by how they've acted and what they've said and when Conor crossed lines in what I personally believe is right or wrong I adjusted my view on him accordingly so not exactly sure what point you think you've proved here..........

Not trying to prove anything only that people can change the way they feel about some thing or someone.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

classic TiBB thread

Erm, the party don't start till I walk in....

[user104658]

Originally Posted by parmnion

He's the one that died in the copter crash a few weeks ago....one more dead rapist for the world to rejoice though

I mean, fair enough but three children died in the crash which makes this sort of ... something.

I also think those circumstances are part of the reaction to his death tbf.

[Saph]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Can we call 2015 "so far in the past"? If it had been 2005 (when he was a teenager) then I'd be inclined to give him the benefit of the doubt that he was just a dumb kid mouthing off, but... It was 5 years ago and he was a 26 year old man.

hes 31 now?!?! legit thought he was like 45

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Oh right lets not bother with education then seeing as it doesn't matter Formal education along with how you are brought up will have a huge bearing on how you turn out, of course there are people who will not be taught, and who are influenced by what happens at home and in their community, and then there are people who cant be helped at all, but we cant deny education doesn't play a part, otherwise why would we bother introducing reading material with same sex parents etc or with diversity and inclusion in education

What the hell are you blathering on about? Respond to what I'm actually saying and what you wanted me to say. You should probably be more clear about what people are saying before you get on your soapbox, Cherie.

Hatred is hatred, you'll get some people like me who will outgrow their surroundings' small mindedness but others won't. When I was at school, issues of sexuality weren't spoken about, issues of race were barely touched upon and when they were, they weren't exactly hammered home or presented in a way that would change minds.

Newer methods that have been introduced since I left school will probably work much better because it's all about normalising differences but I certainly never had that in school and Tyson is only one year older than I am. We've come a long way in the last ten years or so.

I never said that education didn't work, just that my education didn't really change much because they didn't really tackle these issues much, if at all. It's important to make sure you're clear on what people are saying before you try to jump down their throats.

[Tom4784]

As for Kobe Bryant, I don't really know what happened with him and his past so I'm just gonna do what I do when it comes to Micheal Jackson, wait and see.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

As for Kobe Bryant, I don't really know what happened with him and his past so I'm just gonna do what I do when it comes to Micheal Jackson, wait and see.

lol, it's well documented, he was also find 100k for a homophobic slur, and you went no where near THAT thread, are you a sports fan?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13075858

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

What the hell are you blathering on about? Respond to what I'm actually saying and what you wanted me to say. You should probably be more clear about what people are saying before you get on your soapbox, Cherie.

Hatred is hatred, you'll get some people like me who will outgrow their surroundings' small mindedness but others won't. When I was at school, issues of sexuality weren't spoken about, issues of race were barely touched upon and when they were, they weren't exactly hammered home or presented in a way that would change minds.

Newer methods that have been introduced since I left school will probably work much better because it's all about normalising differences but I certainly never had that in school and Tyson is only one year older than I am. We've come a long way in the last ten years or so.



I never said that education didn't work, just that my education didn't really change much because they didn't really tackle these issues much, if at all. It's important to make sure you're clear on what people are saying before you try to jump down their throats.

As usual I am talking sense, and you have to resort to insults

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

As for Kobe Bryant, I don't really know what happened with him and his past so I'm just gonna do what I do when it comes to Micheal Jackson, wait and see.

There's not really anything to wait and see, it was all resolved years ago. A hotel worker accused him of rape, he said that in his mind there had been consent. The criminal case was dropped because she ended up not testifying, she took him to civil courts and he settled out of court. He later released a statement reflecting on it still saying that he had mistaken it for consent but could see on reflection after the evidence given in the civil case that he was wrong (essentially, he admitted to it). Nothing more came of it after the lawsuit settlement.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If only Rolf has boxed

Rolf is a paedophile, there is no comparison at all This is nearly as bad as comparing him to Danny Baker