[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

I was replying to Marsh to watch this space, who said they were living in Canada and pretended he didn't know anything about any other plans, even though as you say, its an open secret.

Pretended he didn't know? What?

Do I need to post their biography or I'm pretending I didn't know something?

Actually, a biography might be helpful. Could help people sort information between "happened and not happened".

[jet]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

To be fair, they highlighted a lot on that tour - it was one small interview at the end of the TV programme where she said she was having a hard time. Maybe other new mums may have looked and thought "you know what, there is a princess and she has all she could ever need but she's had a baby and is struggling, just like me"?

"me" doesn't have nanny's and chauffeurs and cleaners at their beck and call....and no long waiting list for mental health issues if 'me' is suffering despite all that and needs to talk.
Come on now.
And would 'me' focus on myself and my 'struggles' at the end of a tour after seeing horrific poverty and sights?
Would YOU Annie?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

"me" doesn't have nanny's and chauffeurs and cleaners at their beck and call....and no long waiting list for mental health issues if 'me' is suffering despite all that and needs to talk.
Come on now.
And would 'me' focus on myself and my 'struggles' at the end of a tour after seeing horrific poverty and sights?
Would YOU Annie?

Plenty non princesses have nannys and chauffeurs, yes.

Plenty non princesses pay for private healthcare.

Not sure why those things are being listed as reasons she can't be suffering. This "money and fame = no suffering" is quite a prevalent belief on this forum. It's bizarre.

The documentary was as much about them as Royals as it was about their tour.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Plenty non princesses have nannys and chauffeurs, yes.

Plenty non princesses pay for private healthcare.

Not sure why those things are being listed as reasons she can't be suffering. This "money and fame = no suffering" is quite a prevalent belief on this forum. It's bizarre.

The documentary was as much about them as Royals as it was about their tour.

Honestly couldn't imagine living that lifestyle. From a personal point of view I would hate it. Constantly being watched, followed and judged, not allowed feel sad or down because you have a nanny and are never hungry

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Honestly couldn't imagine living that lifestyle. From a personal point of view I would hate it. Constantly being watched, followed and judged, not allowed feel sad or down because you have a nanny and are never hungry

I'm sure you'd still Love Gav though, or at least care for him

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I'm sure you'd still Love Gav though, or at least care for him

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by jet

"me" doesn't have nanny's and chauffeurs and cleaners at their beck and call....and no long waiting list for mental health issues if 'me' is suffering despite all that and needs to talk.
Come on now.
And would 'me' focus on myself and my 'struggles' at the end of a tour after seeing horrific poverty and sights?
Would YOU Annie?

It was one very small part answering a specific question. Post natal issues affect many people and highlighting that could help scores of people in the UK to know that it is actually OK to be not OK and talking about it is allowed.
We all know the extent of the poverty and conditions in Africa due to documentaries like this but it doesn't make ones own problems go away and if it helped one mum struggling to hear that even with everything you say Meghan has at her disposal she is still struggling, it could just be the difference in one person seeking help here at home and that can only be a good thing

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Plenty non princesses have nannys and chauffeurs, yes.

Plenty non princesses pay for private healthcare.

Not sure why those things are being listed as reasons she can't be suffering. This "money and fame = no suffering" is quite a prevalent belief on this forum. It's bizarre.

The documentary was as much about them as Royals as it was about their tour.

Why do you pretend to not see parts of posts, you often do that:

and no long waiting list for mental health issues if 'me' is suffering despite all that and needs to talk.

Most young mothers can't afford nanny's and cleaners and have immediate access to mental health specalists.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Why do you pretend to not see parts of posts, you often do that:

and no long waiting list for mental health issues if 'me' is suffering despite all that and needs to talk.

Most young mothers can't afford nanny's and cleaners and have immediate access to mental health specalists.

That doesn't change my response.

Most? Most single mothers or most working class mothers, maybe. But what exactly do you mean by that? That Meghan is lying about struggling because she has a nanny?

You could say to ANYONE "Well, ok, but there are people worse off" there's literally always someone worse off than anyone. It's not really the point and it's only ever brought up to cut down and diminish the actual discussion (you often do that).

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That doesn't change my response.

Most? Most single mothers or most working class mothers, maybe. But what exactly do you mean by that? That Meghan is lying about struggling because she has a nanny?

You could say to ANYONE "Well, ok, but there are people worse off" there's literally always someone worse off than anyone. It's not really the point and it's only ever brought up to cut down and diminish the actual discussion (you often do that).

You think middle class mothers all have nanny's and cleaners and private health care?
I have no idea if Meghan was lying or not, but it wasn't the time or place to make anything be about herself.

You think there was nothing wrong with it, I don't.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

You think middle class mothers all have nanny's and cleaners and private health care?

Do you invent stuff in real life too or just on the forum?

My reply was to do with your use of the word "most". I didn't even mention middle class.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Do you invent stuff in real life too or just on the forum?

My reply was to do with your use of the word "most". I didn't even mention middle class.

That doesn't make sense.

I said

Most young mothers can't afford nanny's and cleaners and have immediate access to mental health specalists.

You said

Most? Most single mothers or most working class mothers, maybe.

Who are you saying can afford nannys and cleaners then?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

That doesn't make sense.

I said



You said



Who are you saying can afford nannys and cleaners then?

I didn't say anyone could. I asked you about your use of the word most. It's what the "?" symbol means.

[jet]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I didn't say anyone could. I asked you about your use of the word most. It's what the "?" symbol means.

Not getting you.
What exactly, in plain English, is the problem you have with this line of my post:

Most young mothers can't afford nanny's and cleaners and have immediate access to mental health specalists.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Glenn will be pleased. He always says I have given no valid reasons to ‘Hate’ Meghan (which I don’t) and now I have given him two valid reasons (again!) why I dislike her actions and can’t warm to her - the African tour poor me/how they went about leaving the royal family. Both smack to me of insensitivity, self absorption and lack of empathy.

What will happen is, Glenn will not admit these are valid reasons and defend Meghan, and appear to believe that there is nothing wrong in those actions, just like many on this thread have done.

Maybe I don’t like to see elderly grandparents treated with disrespect and privileged people moaning about how bad their life is when they have just witnessed horrific poverty, limbless children and young girls traumatised by rape. My bad.

So Meghan can't answer a question asking how she is, given she'd not long since given birth as they are "priviledged" but you can completely rip the woman to shreds about everything she says and does "on behalf" of Harry's elderly grandparents.... the not so priviledged Queen and Prince Phillip.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by jet

Not getting you.
What exactly, in plain English, is the problem you have with this line of my post:

Everything.

Who are "Most young mothers" and what do they have to do with the post you responded to?

I could cry about my house falling down. Being met with "Most Africans have no running water let alone a house" is not relevant or a suitable response.

We're all priviledged in comparison to another group of people. That doesn't change anything, particularly with mental health.

[Niamh.]

Deleted 84 posts in here, next person to get personal or insult another forum member is getting a massive infraction HUGE

[AnnieK]

Bold Niamh

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Deleted 84 posts in here, next person to get personal or insult another forum member is getting a massive infraction HUGE

ily

[Glenn.]

Bold Niamh makes this fag go weak at the knees

[Crimson Dynamo]

Hooligans running roughshod all over my thread

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Deleted 84 posts in here, next person to get personal or insult another forum member is getting a massive infraction HUGE

What about the person after next?