[Livia]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I mean I've always found Shapiro annoying and I had no idea he was Jewish, and I find him less annoying than Owen Jones, but annoying for similar reasons... I don't think annoyingness is really about the viewpoints expressed or their political leanings... You can find people's personality and how they come across annoying or you can find their opinions annoying (or both). I think most people have taken this thread in the "annoying personality" sense? Like I said, Shapiro s have very different leanings but they have a very similarly irritating "vibe".

I never said he wasn't irritating... it is predictable though, how people pile en masse in when I've said something they can get a hook into.

Yes, Shapiro can be annoying and he says a lot of things I disagree with... for instance I don't agree at all with his stance on abortion. But he's said some stuff that I totally agree with too. And I guess what I admire about him most is the way he can have people attack him simply for who he is, they don't agree with him so they attack him - and most of the time he takes it on the chin.