[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

"I know and love trans people BUT" is the new "I have a friend who is black so I'm not racist BUT"

Given the backlash she received from so many people is really hinting at what is so bad that warrants it. It was insensitive and not fully thought through, at the very least.

Pretty sure it was well thought through. Wanting to protect womens sex based rights does not mean you hate trans people

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Pretty sure it was well thought through. Wanting to protect womens sex based rights does not mean you hate trans people

The "people who menstruate" thing hurt a lot of people, and really if she was a full-on ally like she claims she is, she would have known better before jumping on the topic. It's like, it's always "biological women" vs "trans women" for some of them, as if they were not compatible in the first place.

Talk about reading the room and knowing a big part of Harry Potter's fandom is LGBTQIA+ people...

As Eliott said, it really looks like it has been performative allyship for a while.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

The "people who menstruate" thing hurt a lot of people, and really if she was a full-on ally like she claims she is, she would have known better before jumping on the topic. It's like, it's always "biological women" vs "trans women" for some of them, as if they were not compatible in the first place.

Talk about reading the room and knowing a big part of Harry Potter's fandom is LGBTQIA+ people...

As Eliott said, it really looks like it has been performative allyship for a while.

It seems like Biological women aren't even allowed to speak about things that directly effect us anymore

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It seems like Biological women aren't even allowed to speak about things that directly effect us anymore

Trans women existing effects you how?

Trans women have been allowed in women’s bathrooms for example, for years, do you want that to change?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Trans women existing effects you how?

I'm talking about not wanting to be referred to as a menstrator or a cervix haver or a "non-man", I'm talking about protecting womens sports and women in prisons

Is the term "man" being erased like woman is? I haven't heard you being referred to as prostate havers or ejaculators or non-women. Why is it only women being referred to by bodily functions?

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I'm talking about not wanting to be referred to as a menstrator or a cervix haver or a "non-man", I'm talking about protecting womens sports and women in prisons

Is the term "man" being erased like woman is? I haven't heard you being referred to as prostate havers or ejaculators or non-women. Why is it only women being referred to by bodily functions?

The term woman isn’t being erased, that’s such a ridiculous myth it’s unreal.

I’ll ask you again, would you like trans woman to be banned from using the same spaces as you do? like public toilets, even though they’ve been allowed to do so for a long time, people who advocate for things like that aren’t trying to ‘protect women’s rights’ they’re trying to take right away from trans people

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The term woman isn’t being erased, that’s such a ridiculous myth it’s unreal.

I’ll ask you again, would you like trans woman to be banned from using the same spaces as you do? like public toilets, even though they’ve been allowed to do so for a long time, people who advocate for things like that aren’t trying to ‘protect women’s rights’ they’re trying to take right away from trans people

I never had a problem with that, i only started having a problem with this stuff when self ID became a thing and suddenly all these transactivists appeared telling anyone who had any reservations about how self ID could be open to abuse, to shut up.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

The term woman isn’t being erased, that’s such a ridiculous myth it’s unreal.

I’ll ask you again, would you like trans woman to be banned from using the same spaces as you do? like public toilets, even though they’ve been allowed to do so for a long time, people who advocate for things like that aren’t trying to ‘protect women’s rights’ they’re trying to take right away from trans people

This is a good article thats worth a read...

https://www.economist.com/open-futur...-women-at-risk

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Trans women existing effects you how?

Trans women have been allowed in women’s bathrooms for example, for years, do you want that to change?

Single sex spaces had to be fought for. I wonder how many women are comfortable with visibly male people in their spaces?

[Captain.Remy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

It seems like Biological women aren't even allowed to speak about things that directly effect us anymore

As if Trans people ever told "biological women" they can't talk about it? When and where exactly?

When I see people thinking trans rights affect women's right, I-

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Captain.Remy

As if Trans people ever told "biological women" they can't talk about it? When and where exactly?



When I see people thinking trans rights affect women's right, I-

I mean is this thread itself not an example of women being told to shut up? Have you ever been on Twitter?

You don't think trans rights have affected womens sports?