[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I remember when i was married and a made a Freudian slip. I was having
dinner with my then Mother-in-Law, and I wanted to say, "Could you please
pass the wine?" "But instead I said, "You awful witch, you have completely
ruined my life."

[Liam-]

Not misogynistic at all

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Aren't mother-in-law jokes mainly just based on the idea that they have this rose tinted view of their own child in contrast to their partner and that makes them overbearing and impossible to please etc. It can apply just as much to wives as husbands I'd have thought (as in women can also find their mother-in-law very frustrating)

yes but why not the Father in law he could equally think no one is good enough for his Princess

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Not misogynistic at all

It plays into the trope that all mother-in-laws are middle-aged battleaxes who you would obviously want to avoid. Of course it's misogynistic. It could probably be argued that it's very "low level" misogyny but the subtle messages are the ones that let the larger ones flourish.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Cherie

yes but why not the Father in law he could equally think no one is good enough for his Princess

Indeed; if the aim of the joke is what's been said, why not "your in-laws are around the corner".

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Yeah I would have thought it stereotyped overbearing mothers as opposed to "women".

Mothers are always women though so it is about women

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Mothers are always women though

Don't open THAT can of worms Niamh!

[Ammi]

...it could have been ‘father in law’ just easily, but it wasn’t...because there hasn’t really been father in law ‘humour’ in the same way...as in, inferring father in laws are bit monstrous and stereotyping them in such a negative way...it’s not providing any ‘equal, why ‘in law humour at all’...and it’s definitely not progressing in any way by using a ‘humour’ that has become out dated for a reason...

[Crimson Dynamo]

they should have used "Chugger" instead as that would put the fear of God in most

[Liam-]

Nah, sorry, ‘everyone hates/is scared of their mother-in-law’ is not demeaning an entire gender

[Ammi]

...I mean, one of the very things that ‘father in law humour’ hasn’t been a thing is what should have told them that this was an awful regression...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Nah, sorry, ‘everyone hates/is scared of their mother-in-law’ is not demeaning an entire gender

...it’s stereotyping a ‘role’ as it were, in a negative way because it’s equating it to an horrendous virus...

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Nah, sorry, ‘everyone hates/is scared of their mother-in-law’ is not demeaning an entire gender

Where did you get the impression that targetting the entire gender is a prerequisite of something being misogyny? One of the targetted characteristics of the joke is that it is the female in-law, specifically, thus it's gender-targetted, thus it's misogynistic. Just because it only applies to "mother in laws" and not women in general doesn't make it not misogyny. That's like the claim that Tommy Robinson isn't racist because he has black mates and only says bad things about Muslims. Or saying that someone "isn't homophobic" because they only dislike effeminate gay men and are fine with the blokey ones.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Nah, sorry, ‘everyone hates/is scared of their mother-in-law’ is not demeaning an entire gender

Most women become mother in laws ...

to say everyone hates them is just ridiculous

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Mothers are always women though so it is about women

But not all women are mothers.

And not all mothers are monstrous in-laws.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

But not all women are mothers.

And not all mothers are monstrous in-laws.

....some day you might be a Marsh in-law...

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

It plays into the trope that all mother-in-laws are middle-aged battleaxes who you would obviously want to avoid. Of course it's misogynistic. It could probably be argued that it's very "low level" misogyny but the subtle messages are the ones that let the larger ones flourish.

Yeah exactly, it's another subtle message telling us women over a certain age are worthless, Karen, Mother in Law, cat lady etc etc

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Nah, sorry, ‘everyone hates/is scared of their mother-in-law’ is not demeaning an entire gender

Just the ones with children

[Marsh.]

I can see how some mother-in-law humour can be seen as sexist.

But this is literally "avoid people like you might avoid your mother-in-law". The number of people who actually do that is quite high.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....some day you might be a Marsh in-law...

And what a lovely day that will be for you.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

And what a lovely day that will be for you.

...yeah, we can socially distance and put our masks on of we see you in the distance......

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Ammi

....some day you might be a Marsh in-law...

Originally Posted by Marsh.

And what a lovely day that will be for you.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

But not all women are mothers.

And not all mothers are monstrous in-laws.

That sounds like one of those questions on an aptitude test

If all mother-in-laws are women and some women are monstrous, which of these statements are true?

A - All Mother-in-Laws are monstrous
B - Some Mother-in-Laws are monstrous
C - No Monsters are mothers

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

I can see how some mother-in-law humour can be seen as sexist.

But this is literally "avoid people like you might avoid your mother-in-law". The number of people who actually do that is quite high.

...so there are many who seem to not like those old immigrants...We could treat coronavirus like those asylum seekers, yeah...

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

That sounds like one of those questions on an aptitude test

If all mother-in-laws are women and some women are monstrous, which of these statements are true?

A - All Mother-in-Laws are monstrous
B - Some Mother-in-Laws are monstrous
C - No Monsters are mothers

...is this a top answer or a pointless one...?......