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Old 20-12-2020, 10:45 AM #1
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Honestly that is pathetic sorry to say to attack people for this government's disastrous handling of this pandemic, to accuse them of being against a brexit Cabinet.

Ignore all you like the times this PM has dismissed scientific and health advice.
Have presided over a still rising and shocking deaths total, only on numbers within 28 days of diagnosis too.

How many have died more than 28 days later.

People have lost loved ones in the thousands,hundreds of thousands grieving families, friends, workmates and neighbours.

Yet you summarise as it's those against brexit.
Honestly it beggars belief.

I'll get jumped on for saying this, I've lost 4 special people from my life to this hateful virus and in part due to this government's incompetence too.
I don't want to lose any more.
That's why I attack their failure, nothing to do with brexit.

Which actually they're making it seems at present , a right pig's ear of that too for the UK anyway, since YOU bring it up.
I knew you would not agree Joey,but this is how i see it ,what does he have to gain by causing anger amongst people who probably voted for him ? he didn't stand a chance really as soon as he became PM he got called for wanting Brexit,then this pandemic took hold so those that already hated him had something else to have a go at him for,I am sure he has done what he has been advised to do aswell as trying to keep Christmas for us,but it obviously cant happen so now the hammer has been brought down,that's not good enough either, he cant please everyone all of the time ,none of them can, and crowds are still protesting about its a made up virus !!! I for one feel sorry for him,I really would not want his job, would you ?Anyway you stay safe
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I knew you would not agree Joey,but this is how i see it ,what does he have to gain by causing anger amongst people who probably voted for him ? he didn't stand a chance really as soon as he became PM he got called for wanting Brexit,then this pandemic took hold so those that already hated him had something else to have a go at him for,I am sure he has done what he has been advised to do aswell as trying to keep Christmas for us,but it obviously cant happen so now the hammer has been brought down,that's not good enough either, he cant please everyone all of the time ,none of them can, and crowds are still protesting about its a made up virus !!! I for one feel sorry for him,I really would not want his job, would you ?Anyway you stay safe
I doubt it helps to just accuse those who see his failures as just brexit moaners as you did then.

He's ignored scientific advice as to the first lockdown, the circuit breaker, then the second lockdown done eventually.

Ignored the failures on the testing chaos he's presided over.

The deaths of those in care homes.
With inadequate testing all through the first months of even the first lockdown

He was told 5 days relaxation over Christmas, by health experts, it would lead to funerals in February.
He pressed on regardless.
Now has been shamed again and forced to cut it to only 1 day.
While now needing even more severe measures to deal with it.

If you consider that success and something to applaud then honestly, God help us.
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I doubt it helps to just accuse those who see his failures as just brexit moaners as you did then.

He's ignored scientific advice as to the first lockdown, the circuit breaker, then the second lockdown done eventually.

Ignored the failures on the testing chaos he's presided over.

The deaths of those in care homes.
With inadequate testing all through the first months of even the first lockdown

He was told 5 days relaxation over Christmas, by health experts, it would lead to funerals in February.
He pressed on regardless.
Now has been shamed again and forced to cut it to only 1 day.
While now needing even more severe measures to deal with it.

If you consider that success and something to applaud then honestly, God help us.
Very good posts Joey I agree with what you’ve said. It really baffles me why Boris is choosing to ignore advice that is being given to him by health experts. He has made some really poor decisions throughout this pandemic.
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I knew you would not agree Joey,but this is how i see it ,what does he have to gain by causing anger amongst people who probably voted for him ? he didn't stand a chance really as soon as he became PM he got called for wanting Brexit,then this pandemic took hold so those that already hated him had something else to have a go at him for,I am sure he has done what he has been advised to do aswell as trying to keep Christmas for us,but it obviously cant happen so now the hammer has been brought down,that's not good enough either, he cant please everyone all of the time ,none of them can, and crowds are still protesting about its a made up virus !!! I for one feel sorry for him,I really would not want his job, would you ?Anyway you stay safe
Kaz I have to disagree , I have zero sympathy for a man that is a bumbling idiot . He's ignored alot of health advice & warnings and frankly common sense has gone out the window with him.

No I wouldn't want his job , but he's been so incompetent anyway .
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Is the EU cancelling Christmas for Brits hang them now for putting public health first

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EU countries start to suspend travel to and from the UK due to new Covid strain



Is the EU cancelling Christmas for Brits hang them now for putting public health first



https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1776766.html
I know they have to take precautions "just in case" but the idea that this isn't already in Europe is just nonsense; there's a good chance it came FROM continental Europe.
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Kaz I have to disagree , I have zero sympathy for a man that is a bumbling idiot . He's ignored alot of health advice & warnings and frankly common sense has gone out the window with him.

No I wouldn't want his job , but he's been so incompetent anyway .
All we know GoldHeart is what the press and media convey what they want to us ,personally i think it would be political suicide to ignore advice and warnings ,also businesses have to keep afloat as if the economy goes down ,more people will suffer . its swings and roundabouts and yes mistakes have been made, but as long as we learn from them that's good, he is only human at the end of the day he wouldnt deliberately be making things hard for himself or the country, thats my opinion anyway,but anyway stay safe.
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All we know GoldHeart is what the press and media convey what they want to us ,personally i think it would be political suicide to ignore advice and warnings ,also businesses have to keep afloat as if the economy goes down ,more people will suffer . its swings and roundabouts and yes mistakes have been made, but as long as we learn from them that's good, he is only human at the end of the day he wouldnt deliberately be making things hard for himself or the country, thats my opinion anyway,but anyway stay safe.
All you're telling me though Kazanne with all due respect is that Boris isn't really cut out for the job as his accidentally making loads of mistakes.
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